Fellow pedophiles:do you feel society is treating us fairly?

cumulusjames wrote:I point out that US sex offender laws are not just capturing men, but boys also. For example a 10 yr old played doctors with his sister and got 5 years in prison. Two 12 yr old boys went into a bedroom, unzipped for some normal and harmless mutual exploration, got caught and were prosecuted. Both are on the register for life for "sexual activity with a child" but the register does not state that they happened to be children at the time.

Yes, that is one of the great ironies about these punitive laws in the name of "protecting children." How can they say they are protecting children, when it is children who often fall victim to these Orwellian policies? What's worse, these draconian laws are tearing apart whole families in the name of "family values." Even woman are beginning to be impacted. One woman received a life sentence for soliciting a boy to touch her breasts; another female received 5 life sentences for something similar. Does anyone with even a modicum of intelligence believe that these are "equitable" laws?

One thing worth pointing out is that the sex panics and punitive sex offender laws grew alongside the rise of the political hegemony we in the west live under, namely neo-liberalism. This is a right wing agenda, all full of patriarchy and the nuclear family.

I have identified myself as liberal. But it's getting harder to tell the "liberal" from the conservative. My only explanation is that "neo-liberalism" has the same hedonistic agenda as "former" liberalism, but with opposite methods. They're using reverse psychology to bring about the same result. We are just ponds in their ######6 game. They must really disdain us to consider us so (even though they are very much like us in their proclivities, only far worse). I hate them.
If I am right, and I suspect I am, then they will never resort to executing sex offenders (except for offenses aggravated by murder), because they need us. But the bastards have underestimated the complacency of larger society.

maybekidlovr wrote:I understand why you would defend our side because of the social stigma. But IMO the only pedophiles that make it to the public eye's view are the ones who molest and rape children. And because of this I think that it is fair for the general public to stigmatize all the pedos in the world in order to pay for the crimes our brothers have done.

Firstly, I don't consider anyone who harms innocent children my "brother". It is incidental that they share my sexuality, if even that, since most child molesters are not pedophiles but situational offenders. Secondly, there is no rational need to demonize pedophiles so that only "the ones who molest and rape children make it to the public eye's view". In a more humane society that doesn't fear progress they could more easily seek therapy, should they feel they might benefit from it. They could come out to their friends and family. They could have a lot better self-esteem and mental condition overall. All these reduce the risk of committing a crime. Society's witch hunt against pedophiles as nameless personless mass hurts everyone. Thirdly, I'm not convinced at all that the word "fair" can be used to describe a situation in which we demonize all pedos for the acts of only some pedos. Stop feeling responsible over other individuals' crimes. Admittedly, this type of reasoning has its parallels in many other social issues beyond the discrimination of pedophiles. For instance, a racist loves to pick supposedly a quintessential black criminal to showcase the "inferiority of one "race" " over another. I concede that the human propensity for "us-and-them" thinking is deeply rooted in our psychology but lets not seek rationalizations for it.

maybekidlovr wrote:Is it fair for those kidnapped or hurt children that their family and friends not get angry at their offenders. What is worst?- Having been raped and taken advantage of, or being judged socially by society? I think that at this point we can only help ourselves (on an individual basis) and not on a global basis.

The issue is not hate against rape or rapists. The issue is generalizations and stereotypes concerning pedophilic people, and the masses' unwillingness to correct their fallacious bigoted thinking. I think you are presenting a false dichotomy. Juxtaposing two or more evils and dismissing the lesser ones by virtue of them being lesser (being raped is worse than being judged by society) is fallacious thinking. I might as well argue stealing is okay, since murdering is worse in terms of suffering caused. Obviously the truth is neither is okay. And similarly, along with rape, it is not just to demonize pedophiles based on their sexuality which they never chose, but which they can and usually do control.

maybekidlovr wrote:I love watching and being aorund little girls, their smell and soft skin, I would love nothing more than to spend everyday with a little girl , (and night), but at the end of the day what we pedos want goes against what society wants like black and white. What we want is impossoble, so if we want to live in harmony with society we must abide by their rules. If you decide that living a suppressed life is not worth living then you must act on your desires and hope that society doesnt kill you if and when they find out you betrayed society.

I don't know about you but I want fairness, both on judicial and social level. You mention rules. Are you not aware that there is an enormous number of pedophiles doing exactly that, abiding the rules, and yet they'd be persecuted on social level all the same? This idea that pedophiles either need to live as outcasts, destined to suffer self-hate, self-pity, self-denial, self-this-and-that or become criminals is really outlandish, and yet so common. Society has progressed before, and it can progress again. I want to see pedophiles accepted as part of society so that they can more easily get the support that helps would-be-victims, children, too. This division between pedophiles and the rest of society is detrimental to all parties. It may radicalize a pedophile, who will go underground (where he is accepted in shady communities) and may end up dismissing the rules of the society that already condemns him. It is a source of a self-fulfilling prophecy that psychologically conditions many pedophiles to think they are destined to become the monsters they are represented as.

cumulusjames wrote:The really curious thing is, I don't find myself wishing I hadn't had that experience. I began masturbating to it not long after it happened and using various objects from around the house to re enact it. I then spent many years offering myself as "cute young twink for dom top". Power imbalance and some pain became part of my sexuality.

Relating to the '' doing it for money'' thing, was that your only painful experience or where there others?
And how long did you do sexual favors for money? How old are you now?

I'm quinda concerned about this... Also, how old was the man that did this ?

anonymous2525 wrote:

cumulusjames wrote:The really curious thing is, I don't find myself wishing I hadn't had that experience. I began masturbating to it not long after it happened and using various objects from around the house to re enact it. I then spent many years offering myself as "cute young twink for dom top". Power imbalance and some pain became part of my sexuality.

Relating to the '' doing it for money'' thing, was that your only painful experience or where there others?
And how long did you do sexual favors for money? How old are you now?

I'm quinda concerned about this... Also, how old was the man that did this ?

I did it for money on and off from 14 to 25. I'm 34 now. I got into being dominated, used to advertise for 'dom tops. I started to like it when it hurt. The first man to pay me was 38. The last was a retired guy whose wife was away. I'd still be doing it now if I could.

I don't understand what the Elite's agenda is in perpetuating all of this Pedophile Mass hysteria?

It really has got to ridiculous levels.

It's about social control. Note the absence of any meaningful youth movement. Note teenage boys who might have referred to themselves as blokes and shyed away from being called "kid" 20 yrs ago now refer to themselves as kid.

But more often than not the "child" (usually teen) sex offenses are by someone under 25 these days. So you infantalize the teenage boy, interfere with his sexual development through prohibition, treat him like a baby until the age of 18 - 21 then chuck out a sexually, emotionally immature man, then wonder why he wants to date 14 yr olds or look at underage porn.

You guys might find this interesting:
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_ ... owing.html

I'm terrified all the time. It's a major contributing factor to my anxiety. I feel like I'd be persecuted mercilessly and even incarcerated indefinitely if anyone found out. I'm technically a hebephile, not a pedophile, but it's all the same in the eyes of the Law, and the people it seems. I live my life in constant fear because of society's prejudices.

I have to be extremely conscious of where my gaze goes when I'm in public because I'm afraid of someone noticing while I check out a 12-year-old girl and reporting me or something. But I can't just force myself not to look, you know?

So no, I don't feel that society treats me fairly. I believe most people would automatically assume I'm a filthy and dangerous predator, even when I've never done anything but look and fantasize.