Fellow pedophiles:do you feel society is treating us fairly?

I'm indignant, and feel that American society in particular is on the warpath. I feel that the motives for the societal outrage and judicial reactionism towards hebephiles/pedophiles range from fearmongering and "boogie-man" hysteria to ulterior motives (sometimes cash incentives or profiteering) belying the draconian legal impositions. And it seems, I have a prominent ally in this perspective: A book was recently published addressing America's self-interest in cashing in on mass incarceration: Caught: The Prison State and the Lockdown of American Politics by one Marie Gottschalk. This may prove to be a seminal work, and is already drawing rave reviews. In it, Gottschalk makes the case that the entire American judicial system is compromised by malfeasance and systemic corruption stemming from political pandering to lucrative entrepreneurial interests. One whole chapter, called "The War on Sex offenders," is devoted to America's new outcasts (her words). She notes that these are treated in a particularly heinous and pernicious manner, unbecoming the kind of professionalism which behooves our public officials. One need only look at the recent case condoning vigilantism in Florida to see this.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/f ... -1.2172281
(If this link fails, cut and paste.)
That's far from being an isolated incident. The ways in which law enforcement and forensic entities are treating these cases simply lends itself towards vigilantism. If this is how "professionals" act, then why not the populace? If the parents are unruly and irresponsible, then still more easily the child, who emulates them!
The question is in the title. Express your sentiments regarding this, and what should be the appropriate legal course of action by us. Please bear with any delayed response on my part, as I'm recuperating from an injury, heretofore mentioned in previous posts.

I agree that pedophiles are the world's present punching bag.

Let's not talk about age of consent issues. Those aren't pedophile rights issues so much as youth rights issues as a wise man once said.

I think all anti-contacts and pro-contact advocates will agree that the official laws aren't so bad but the culture and general mentalities of people must change. It isn't just ignorance. People too scared to ever think critically refuse to distinguish pedophiles from child molesters and this bigotry is well internalised by now to the point that innocent people consider killing themselves and live perpetual in the closet or risk losing all their loved one or at least horrifically changing their relationship's dynamic.

People condone brutal vigilance justice against innocent people.

Thing need to change and they will. Gradually they will so long as we all refuse to have our spirits broken. The one thing we have to do for them.

I understand why you would defend our side because of the social stigma. But IMO the only pedophiles that make it to the public eye's view are the ones who molest and rape children. And because of this I think that it is fair for the general public to stigmatize all the pedos in the world in order to pay for the crimes our brothers have done.

Is it fair for those kidnapped or hurt children that their family and friends not get angry at their offenders. What is worst?- Having been raped and taken advantage of, or being judged socially by society? I think that at this point we can only help ourselves (on an individual basis) and not on a global basis.

I love watching and being aorund little girls, their smell and soft skin, I would love nothing more than to spend everyday with a little girl , (and night), but at the end of the day what we pedos want goes against what society wants like black and white. What we want is impossoble, so if we want to live in harmony with society we must abide by their rules. If you decide that living a suppressed life is not worth living then you must act on your desires and hope that society doesnt kill you if and when they find out you betrayed society.

Maligan12 wrote:I agree that pedophiles are the world's present punching bag.

Ditto. Pedophiles have been taking hits for a while but recently it's gotten worse. There's even a group of hacktivists which goes by the name of Anonymous which made an attempt to cleanse the deep web of CP and was mostly successful. They took down some of the biggest CP websites like Lolita City. http://www.net-security.org/secworld.php?id=11831 . However, there was a backup of Lolita City and can still be found as a torrent.

Things won't change until paedophilia (pre pubescent) is decoupled from mid teenagers. A bulk of what is being called child abuse and child pornography is in fact early - mid, sometimes late teens. Because this activity has been placed under the banner of "paedophilia" it obviously significantly inflates the figures and data - we had a story in the UK this week that "child sexual abuse is up 60%". If a skilled investigative journalist were to look into these fishy figures they would find the bulk of it to be 14+, and would struggle to find evidence that the "victim" had been forced.

As a teenager in the 90's the kinds of things now erroneously being placed under the banner of paedophilia were probably more rife than they are now, since massive efforts have been underway to frighten teenagers out of thier sexuality. Thish fishy statistic is very likely in opposition to the facts, but since teenage sexual behaviour was not sought out and forcibly exposed in the way it is now, we have no data from when I was growing up, only from successfully prosecuted cases.

I say this again. It's important: the first step towards change is to stop the endless expansion and abuse of the word paedophile again.

The public appetite for villifying someone over 18 for consensual sex with a mid - late teen has been completely fuelled by the inclusion of that into paedophilia. Dealing with that first, then we can talk about options to help the paedophile manage thier urges and live a good life, not causing any harm and keeping thier own mental health in good shape.

maybekidlovr wrote:I understand why you would defend our side because of the social stigma. But IMO the only pedophiles that make it to the public eye's view are the ones who molest and rape children. And because of this I think that it is fair for the general public to stigmatize all the pedos in the world in order to pay for the crimes our brothers have done.

It certainly isn't fair to punish someone who isn't a rapist for a crime someone else committed. That you don't understand this is extremely sad.

I wanted to respond to some of these posts directly, but I am only on for a minute (in passing, really). As a side note, I did wish to point out that just recently a federal judge has ruled that the sex offender requirements in Michigan are unconstitutional. (There was also a similar ruling in New York within the year.) This may or may not herald change (although, I rather think it does). Perhaps the fact that higher officials of note have ruled in our "favor" (if you will) should inform our consideration of the matter. Such rulings are a tacit admission to society's supercilious and overbearing treatment of pedophiles in particular and alleged "sex offender" of every stripe in general. I applaud such judges for having the bravery and integrity to take the contrary stand. This might temper our zeal in condemning our own; as it seems that many of us have succumbed to the Stockholm syndrome.

maybekidlovr wrote:I understand why you would defend our side because of the social stigma. But IMO the only pedophiles that make it to the public eye's view are the ones who molest and rape children. And because of this I think that it is fair for the general public to stigmatize all the pedos in the world in order to pay for the crimes our brothers have done.

I must admit, I'm a bit taken aback by your loose use of the word "fair." The act, in and of itself, of stereotyping and segregating an entire group based on popular perception or sensationalism has always been deplored by defenders of law and order. Just because ISIS is Muslim, does it therefore follow that we should stereotype all Muslims as ruthless killers or intolerant zealots? Or just because Indian nationals have engaged in and justified rape of hapless female victims, does it ipso facto follow that all male Indians are thus minded? Even groups of reputedly low character are not so typecast. Does society see all murderers alike? No, but they rationally distinguish between degrees of homicide, from the case of the negligent to the homicidal maniac or serial killer. So why is it justified to place all pedophiles into one category? I frown on Nazism, but I allow that there are degrees of extremes even within this somewhat variegated group—ranging from the confused youth to the genocidal fanatic. Society has always been a little more savvy about recognizing diversity when given the facts than we give it credit for. And it is simply not true that society only hears of pedophiles who commit rape, kidnapping or murder. Many cases that come to light involve only the act of viewing child pornography, or exposure of genitalia (not rape or contact). And even in some of the most notorious cases, the people of law enforcement just prosecute for possession of illicit material rather than for acts of barbarism, as bizarre as that may seem. Take the recent case of a British man in Massachusetts who plotted to commit cannibalism against children in the U.S. He had a dungeon and everything, but they only prosecuted him for having and distributing child pornography.
http://news.sky.com/story/1142998/paedo ... eon-jailed
(See the resolution of this case elsewhere.)
The U.S. seems infatuated with minutiae, while the most reprehensible acts of pedophilia are lumped in with the lesser. I cannot blame society altogther for this; it seems to be the fault of lawmakers and those enforcing the law, some of whom have accused the system of going too far in some respects touching on this matter.

Is it fair for those kidnapped or hurt children that their family and friends not get angry at their offenders. What is worst?- Having been raped and taken advantage of, or being judged socially by society? I think that at this point we can only help ourselves (on an individual basis) and not on a global basis.

I do not defend such reprehensible acts. I only mean to point out that certain overreactions are in and of themselves counterproductive and unnecessary. If a drunk driver commits vehicular homicide, does one prosecute all alcoholics? Such an act may even ameliorate the situation, as it may lower the numbers of casualties that result from drunk driving. But even MADD (Mothers Against Drunk Driving) might view that as gratuitous and excessive punishment. So how is it justified in the case of pedophiles, even if such methods were effective (which they're not)? Does the end justify the means? Does "effective" and "efficient" translate to "fairness" and "justice for all" (remember that phrase?)? There was nary a crime committed by the populace under Nazi Germany, because of the high risk involved and over-punishment in Germany at that time, but does that justify fascism or draconian measures? Should I sever my arm to rid it of a malignancy, when it might be just as effective, and less costly, to excise the cancerous area itself?
This is not an apologetic (defense) for pedophilia, so much as a call for moderation in treatment. Unless we are prepared to endorse suicide and vigilante homicide for thought crime, or the prosecution of the latter, we must admit here that many in positions of authority are using a blow torch to light a candle. Put succinctly, they are going to unmitigated extremes, which infringe on rights and freedom, in the name of security and public safety.
Please note: this was not a personal attack against you. Like I said earlier in this forum, many of our numbers suffer from what is called "The Stockholm syndrome." Please look it up.

Being an exclusive pedophile and also being a registered child sex offender I tend to not really worry how society treats me or how they view me. I mean I live in a neighborhood where everyone knows and guards there children away from me and I don't blame them at all. I don't act like I am a victim or say poor me and I know the things I have done are repulsive and disgusting but if I dwell on that all the time then other people's opinions will affect me as well. I am extremely proud to be a pedophile exclusively but not proud that I have acted on my desires.

HowardCL wrote:Being an exclusive pedophile and also being a registered child sex offender I tend to not really worry how society treats me or how they view me. I mean I live in a neighborhood where everyone knows and guards there children away from me and I don't blame them at all. I don't act like I am a victim or say poor me and I know the things I have done are repulsive and disgusting but if I dwell on that all the time then other people's opinions will affect me as well. I am extremely proud to be a pedophile exclusively but not proud that I have acted on my desires.

OK, HowardCL. I have one question for you. You will likely ask how this question relates to our discussion. Answer me, and I'll tell you. A woman kills her two children (a daughter, 14, and a son, 11) because they molested a relative. Now here's the question: Was she justified in doing so?
http://www.inquisitr.com/1956417/mitche ... a-freezer/