What does she have ?

Kane wrote:This needs to be said:

It doesn't matter what she has.

Shes not going to change her life for you.

Shes unstable.

Get out.

well said

It will be a cold day in hell when I'm offended by the likes of you.
Believe it or not, I have looked after a close relative with schizophrenia for the last several years. I know a bit about the "disturbed", the way they think and project onto others.
You have used the term "Whiney bitches" elsewhere in other contexts.
You are not a psychiatrist. You are simply 'disordered of mind'.
Your comments are unfounded, based on no evidence and obviously made to stir trouble.
Like a child, you are probably best left ignored, which is my future plan. However, let it be said here, that judging by the comments I have recieved about you, the general concensus is that you are an idiot.
Good luck with that.

So, because you have taken care of someone who suffered with schizophrenia, that makes you...... what? An expert on personality disorders. Two very different afflictions. I don't think Jamie was trying to represent a Psychiatrist obviously a psychiatrist wouldn't use the term whiney bitch to describe the disorder. Although I must agree it does fit the description to a certain degree.
A child is best to be ignored? Hmmmm, thats a little disfunctional. Were you ignored as a child? Maybe thats why your so bitter.
You have received comments about Jamie that lead you to believe that he is an idiot? You have been lead astray there chiquita. It's obvious he has more intelligence in his pinky finger than you do in you entire miniscule brain

You are so transparently predictable.

Yawn.

Really? You got that from just reading a few post from him. I'm sure you can see right through him since you are an expert, because you took care of a schizophrenic. I think your jumping to conclusions here.
I thought you said he was to be ignored? Doesn't seem that way. Then you yawn as if your bored, yet you still reply. You are the one acting like a child.

On a more pleasant note....I like your handle. It suits you very well.

I'm out of here.......



....... just had to go poke my eye out with a sharp stick.

Aimdog many posters have told the mods they felt Jamie was trying to subtley get under their skin with his posts.

While others have said he is a good contributor.

I think the reply you are quoting of noinsights and trying to break apart is really unnecessary as she made it feeling targeted by Jamie.

Whether this was Jamie's intention to make posters feel uncomfortable or not is anyone's guess but clearly noinsight has felt attacked by him and is not alone with that.

I say we just let this situation rest for the time being and not take action against anyone and just hope posters who cannot seem to get along simply do not reply to eachother anymore.

I don't want to lose a single contributor we have to the forum over anything that can be easily resolved.

Actully if you take the time to read it over it was a blanket tongue in cheek statement. And the other bit was directed at that spicific woman refrenced in the first post.

Then she singled me out and attacked my charecter like she had a clue. I hadnt spoken to whats its face ever before or directed a comment in her direction, if she felt "attacked" then thats not my problem.

If you had a clue you'd be able to recognize this. And if whats its face wants to start attacking peoples charecters then i see no issue with the return from someone who can speak upon my charecter.

Let those who complain, complain...cry along with them for all i care. your not the voice of reason, your an after thought so dont try explaining the situation to amy when she's already well aware. you deciding to get involved now that the tables are turned on your little friend when you could have before is just amusing.

I dont attempt to get under peoples skin, it just happens. Just as some of you get under other peoples skin...and you yourself are not different, the difference is most people can deal with it. Not try and publicly paint someone as an agitator, or a fool....which is exactly what had been done. Now that the tables are turned you decide to step in.

Its all quite beautiful really

Here something interesting how would whats its face having not been around long and only 30 something posts to her name know the supposed "general concensus" about me. why could it be that shes hearing such things from the guy who has no affliction himself and cant get over his ex . Just a thought.

"Actully if you take the time to read it over it was a blanket tongue in cheek statement. And the other bit was directed at that spicific woman refrenced in the first post."

Then she singled me out and attacked my charecter like she had a clue. I hadnt spoken to whats its face ever before or directed a comment in her direction, if she felt "attacked" then thats not my problem."

Trolling behaviour is not attacking someone directly. It is paying close attention to a person that the troll is targeting and thinking about ways to piss that person off and have them get very angry at the troll so they will lash out and the two can have a big fight and get the person they've made uncontrollably angry banned for finally lashing out in an irrational or verbally abusive way. In doing this the troll appears innocent but when called on their clear trolling behaviour by a mod usually excuses like this are used...

Oh see its the other posters fault. I'm just minding my own business, giving my opinion on things and this person got really angry FOR NO REASON!

or this...

"Then she singled me out and attacked my charecter like she had a clue. I hadnt spoken to whats its face ever before or directed a comment in her direction, if she felt "attacked" then thats not my problem"

Also I don't see why you are so bent out of shape.

This part of my post to me sounds reasonable and defending your intentions as in my saying that I don't know (at that point) whether you meant to attack noinsight or not...

"she made it feeling targeted by Jamie.

Whether this was Jamie's intention to make posters feel uncomfortable or not is anyone's guess but clearly noinsight has felt attacked by him and is not alone with that.

Other people have indeed complained to me in thinking you were trying to get under their skin ie troll them and I defended you to them and said "Well I don't think Jamie really means it" but if they felt continually attacked and thought you needed to be banned to bring it up with our administrator. So I've defended you Jamie but I'm increasingly wondering why I should considering the complaints just keep on piling up...

"If you had a clue you'd be able to recognize this. And if whats its face wants to start attacking peoples charecters then i see no issue with the return from someone who can speak upon my charecter.

Let those who complain, complain...cry along with them for all i care. your not the voice of reason, your an after thought so dont try explaining the situation to amy when she's already well aware. you deciding to get involved now that the tables are turned on your little friend when you could have before is just amusing."

I never said I was the voice of reason but you must've been thinking I was since you brought it up...

Anyway being the voice of reason really isn't my job as a mod.

My job like all the other mods is simply to keep the peace.

I've decided to get involved now and not before because sometimes its good to let two posters have it out so long as they don't get too abusive with swearing and such in hopes that will be the end of it. Unfortunately the thread was revived and noinsight was clearly being ganged up on which of course is not fair or right as the issue had already seemed to of been resolved between you and noinsight and it was also apparent that you may of been the instigator of this whole mess with troll like behaviour anyway but I wanted to attempt to be neutral by taking the view of not knowing if trolling really was your intentions. It seems like trolling could be your intentions though with again the number of complaints that have been piling up.

"I dont attempt to get under peoples skin, it just happens. Just as some of you get under other peoples skin...and you yourself are not different, the difference is most people can deal with it. Not try and publicly paint someone as an agitator, or a fool....which is exactly what had been done. Now that the tables are turned you decide to step in.

Its all quite beautiful really Twisted Evil"

No where in my first post did I actively pick a side. I just said it seems that there is a good case for noinsight feeling attacked. I suppose it could seem like you were painted as an agitator by me but since I did not say that I think you jumped to conclusions a bit too soon.

"Here something interesting how would whats its face having not been around long and only 30 something posts to her name know the supposed "general concensus" about me. why could it be that shes hearing such things from the guy who has no affliction himself and cant get over his ex Rolling Eyes . Just a thought."

Looks like someone needs to do their homework. I've been diagnosed with PTSD and have admitted it here before on several occasions.

Also noinsight could've gotten that consensus about you from a few other mods but indeed probably did get it from me.

So what?

Its not against our mod rules to share that info with whomever we want.

That was very informative.

She had no reasons to feel attacked. If so i'd like to hear those reasons. You implying i'm a troll is amusing...it show's you know about as much as noinsight about the way i work. If you want a ban then push for it...please, lets see how sound your case is. Problem is its your speculation, i'm really not breaking any rules, you insinuation of trolling is in your head.....i was called out and i responded. As for the complaining posters then build your case and gather your evidence. You were right in defending me though as i'm not aware i'm doing it, if i am at all.

Read over the thread if you must. I was speaking to the thread starter. Out of the blue i'm being called out. She misread something, confused herself and based upon her own confusion decided to call me out...thinking i was calling all women whiney bitches. And yet you feel i started or prevoked this. Then she attackes my charecter. Well then someone happens along and decides to set such obvious incorrect assumptions straight. No ganging up. Noinsight was clearly wrong, thats not hard to see.

I'm just not overly sensitive or sympathetic when theres no reason to be, i dont blow smoke up peoples asses. So i come off as i do. Keep in mind your not one who can speak upon the general concensus because believe me i've been told by a few people that quite a few people think you serve no point here....and you being a moderator is more of a coincidence then a deserved position, i could say worse but i'm not the type.

Me, i look for no trouble, i speak when something motivates me to. And i have infact spread much support to those who need it and at appropriate times. I've been told this from many people aswell as mods. I have different shades and because i disagree with most that comes out of your mouth or with someone else (and keep in mind 98% of my expressed disagreement is on the ASPD, HPD forums) is my right, we are a democratic society and i can openly disagree while not attacking. You painting my as being passive aggressive or a "troll" is all in your mind.

I'm well aware of another mod who in her paranoid mind and because i also disagreed with her and her power trip has been wanting me banned, if it happens it happens.

So why not name some names. You like telling people that the "general consensus" is...i'm a big fan of backing $#%^ up so why not name some names. I'd love to know who has issues maybe i can resolve them, offer an apology for comming off as abrasive.

Actully its not really funny at all, by saying you "could have" means if there was a time to get involved it would have been when she tried to attack my charecter and paint me as an agitator and fool. Finding out (which i already knew) that she got her general consensus from you, a side had already been taken. So when she got attacked (and justly) you decide to get involved and take a stance of defense on her part. Trying to explain her possible point of view and further paint me as a trouble maker by indicating all the negative complaints you apparently recieve.

You felt targeted by me?. where, when and on what subject?. Perhaps i can clarify....or perhaps you can grasp the concept of discussion..you know, how opinions and sides can differ. I do apologise if you felt attacked though. The only thing i can recall involving you is when i suggested fomori should be the ASPD mod, as he should.

No its not against any rules. But its a nice clear indication of your charecter. And passing that info off as if it were infact true or credible should be against a rule, but its not and considering the giving and recieve source of this "info", i'm not to broken up about it.

Whats her face attacked me, she got some back....simple as that.

I'm sorry for your PTSD...it must have been quite the break up. Here is a thought.....why dont you go post in the PTSD forum once in awhile. Maybe you'll get yourself some help and support instead of contributing to lists of "famous historonics" or passing around info to newbies, you know to ignore that "troll".

Amys post was just and appreciated.

JamieJ23 wrote:That was very informative.

She had no reasons to feel attacked. If so i'd like to hear those reasons. You implying i'm a troll is amusing...it show's you know about as much as noinsight about the way i work. If you want a ban then push for it...please, lets see how sound your case is.

I also believe that noinsight is unfairly attacked. She is, actually, or ironically, a member with a lot of insight from whom I learned a lot.
She is open, honest, and has a lot of introspection.
Unlike many here, she doesn't ask for tips on how to keep her boyfriend hooked. (Btw. the questions and tips from some hpd victims here make me wanna throw up. Is this a forum to help the hpds to perfect their 'skills,' or help them find ways to face their problems and get help?)
I think the moderators have been doing a very poor job re: tips to hpds to improve their styles of conquest. Some moderators are only too glad to share their info. with these truly disturbed guys/gals which they allegedly learned from hpds in private sessions. (pms) How does this square with ethics?
What a site, what a bunch of moderators. (puke)
I hope she will reconsider her decision. We need her here.

Well i disagree....she had no position to attack. If she helped you then bravo but her 31 posts all of which i've read dont show any real insight. Of course this is my opinion and i'm biased by the fact she decided to act a nut. I dont expect you to agree but then again 7 posts and being helped by a nuts insight are bias enough to not be lagit.

I do infact agree with you though about the mod situation i can think of some who are very decent though. Who care and are infact insightful....and are generally appreciated. I wont list handles as i wouldnt want to create conflict but i think our last posting mod is a good example of one who has no perpus. His roll can be filled by practicly anyone who can form a sentance.

Again this is just my opinion.

And if the general concensus is i'm simply and idiot as he shared with noinsight them i'm best to just be left ignored right.

From: noinsight
To: JamieJ23
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 8:23 pm
Subject: Your Table
I had to come back to disable the e-mail notification.
- Choked as it was with "you have a personal message" from all your 9 er, 'fans'. What a fuss, you are all 'a twitter' about it.
Just what you wanted in your boring little life.

Looks like it's not "your table" at all. Looks like 9 people would like you to choke on your own buffet.
How's my tally? Have all your pals been hot on the press -
oooooh what a horrible woman. I'm sure they have.

I'll post whenever I want, without hesitation. But there is no need for me to is there? You have it all covered here
.
How's the HPD going anyway? That is why you are here isn't it? No? What a surprise! But it's "your table" - lmao
Who do you think you are?

Let me guess ? - (something you like to do about people you know nothing about):
You have anti-social personality disorder? Isn't that the politically correct new name for 'psychopath'? I ask you in all honesty, you are such an expert on personality disorders it seems -
I find that, in itself, sad. I'm glad I have a life.

I don't know what "to troll" means exactly, but you tried your best.
I could publicly pick apart every comment you made which I found personally offensive. I don't need to.
The moment you started, quite a few people messaged me.

We were all wrong were we? You are the victim? lol

What a joke. We both know what you are all too well. There's a lot of infomation about psycho's. Pity there isn't much on HPD.
Maybe then you could come up with a better turn of phrase than
"A bunch of whiney bitches" or 'what's her face'. How trailer park.

As for your super intelligence - sorry honey, you need to come to grips with your delusions on that. One of the indicators of high intelligence is not the ability to construct wordy sentances, but a
keen sense of humour. You don't have it, I'm afraid.

You are just nasty.
I can smell your nasty little streak from the other side of the world.
Bye



Hmm, yeah i am a prevoker all right. More of the same confusion

Please keep arugments out of the open forums.... if you have a disagreement with someone etc please solve it over PMs, for now I think it's best to lock this post.


Thanks.