What does she have ?

Starchecker wrote:New to the forum and this is my first post.

I agree that she has ASPD, but probably comorbid with HPD. Cluster B disorders are like the colors of a rainbow, from a distance you can see the 4 colors easily, but it's impossilbe to look close and try to pinpoint exactly where one begins and another ends. Some people fit squarely into one category and others are a blend of two or more. Ultimately it doesn't matter you are still looking at a rainbow and the pot at the end is lethal.

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Whats lethal about it? By the way, I'm only calling you on it because I don't like your theism. It gives me a physical reaction these days, even more so than fat people do. Feel free to disregard what is largely a pedantic post designed to provoke some kind of response. See this, I'm self-moderating mid-post. I better shut up and click the post button before I decide to-

"2. The first time we went to a disco(our first night out after marriage), the day after our wedding, she refused to dance with me, saying I dont dance well."

Strange behaviour. Been there.

"4. She had a vivid sexual imagination, but her idea of intimacy was sex, in 2.5 years of marriage, we never got emotionally intimate. Not that I did not try. I tried everything under the sun"

Definitely been there too. you might like to look at my long post "A Lady With Histrionic Personality Disorder" where I describe their inability to have close meaningful relationships with anyone.

I tend to agree with the other posters that this kind of behaviour is never really going to change. It is too closely tied up with their identity, and besides, they like being that way most of the time.

Can't you sue the person who arranged the marriage for you.

Oh I don't know, how about the people that have killed themselves after their lives have been absolutely destroyed by the rage of a narcissist or an HPD. After they have stripped you of any self-esteem or life blood, then the real fun begins, of total destrruction, financially, emotionally and in reputation. It's like being raped by your parents and then having the cops throw you in jail for being a seductive whore. Not many people can survive that.

Not so much with female victims of HPD's but more so with male victims after years of abuse, when the partner leaves false accusations of domestic violence and mollesting their children are common tactics. Hence when they need support the most, they usually may get thrown in jail, lose all their friends, go bankrupt, and if they have children, get to see their ex wife twist their minds against them.

Men have spent years in prison for being falsely convicted of mollesting their children or raping a girlfriend all because she wants to "get back at him" for rejecting her advances and threatening her all important ego. Dateline had a story about a mom who had 2 men thrown in jail(for 16 years) for allegedly mollesting her daughter(that was the excuse the mom used for kidnapping her daughter and taking her across state lines.) So that she didn't get in trouble for kidnapping her daughter, two men lost their lives and no doubt got A-- raped daily in prison(child mollestors have a hard time in the big house). They aren't the only victims, the daughter is in intensive psychological treatment for the guilt she feels for falsely accusing those men. The judge was too narcissistic to admit that he got duped by a HPD mom and her 6 year old daughter, so he refuses to rehear the case, even though the daughter claims up and down that she lied.

This is just one example of many. It's obviously not always physically lethal, but lives are destroyed all the same.

Was that women a diagnosed Historonic?.

Because i know some females in general like to do such things. And i cant imagine they'd all have HPD.

JamieJ23 wrote:Was that women a diagnosed Historonic?.

Because i know some females in general like to do such things. And i cant imagine they'd all have HPD.

Shakespeare right? "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned"

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Shakespeare right? "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned"

Funny you bring that up, after what I went through and what I learned I always thought the quote should be changed to "Hell hath no fury like a Histionic scorned"

Those aren't female traits, they are the traits of a raging narcissist(meaning any cluster b).

I know women who have married unfaithful jerks or husbands who just cheated on them once, and they have not been vindictive at all.

To answer the other question, they didn't mention she was histrionic (if you are refering to the woman who ran off with her daughter.) They probably would have thrown out the bipolar or borderline tag. I prescribe to Dr. Sam Vaknins theory that they are all just variations of the narcissistic disorder(just different forms of Narcissistic supply), but the underlying structure of the psyche is similar and the effect on those around them is the same.

noinsight wrote:YES. Clearly, you DON'T know much about it. Your constant reference to 'women' with the condition as "whiny bitches", says it all. Is that the reaction you have been gunning for?
Why don't you take your stereotypical thoughts and go get your attention fix elsewhere?

Look, I'm no sexist, but to pretend that women aren't frequently hypersensitive would be like ignoring an elephant in the room. Of course there are exceptions (like my ever so rare fiancee). Also, this is just from the male perspective. I'm sure most women don't find each other as hypersensitive. Likewise, most women find most men as 'insensitive bastards'. There are some exceptions, but generally most men aren't too sensitive. Likewise, this also is just from the female perspective, very few men find each other insensitive.

Starchecker wrote:

Shakespeare right? "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned"

Funny you bring that up, after what I went through and what I learned I always thought the quote should be changed to "Hell hath no fury like a Histionic scorned"

Those aren't female traits, they are the traits of a raging narcissist(meaning any cluster b).

I know women who have married unfaithful jerks or husbands who just cheated on them once, and they have not been vindictive at all.

To answer the other question, they didn't mention she was histrionic (if you are refering to the woman who ran off with her daughter.) They probably would have thrown out the bipolar or borderline tag. I prescribe to Dr. Sam Vaknins theory that they are all just variations of the narcissistic disorder(just different forms of Narcissistic supply), but the underlying structure of the psyche is similar and the effect on those around them is the same.

I get what you mean with histrionic thing, but wait until you scorn a narcissist. Like histrionics they will do everything in their power to destroy you, however unlike histrionics they are not utterly helpless. Narcissists will go to the ends of the earth, whereas histrionics will likely only use the power already at their disposal.

I'll have to disagree with you on the idea that most women aren't vindictive or spiteful (especially when dumped). Some more than others, definitely, but nearly invariably they have an axe to grind.

noinsight wrote:

I dont know much about HPD other then it seems like a fancy word for a whiny bitch so maybe thats what she is.

YES. Clearly, you DON'T know much about it. Your constant reference to 'women' with the condition as "whiny bitches", says it all. Is that the reaction you have been gunning for?
Why don't you take your stereotypical thoughts and go get your attention fix elsewhere?

It was in reference the that spicific women.

From all i've seen and read whiney bitch sounds like a fitting description.

The whiney bitch comment hit alittle close to home?.

I said the condition, not women with the condition.