WARNING avoid ta therapy

There is a new therapy being peddled as a "cure" for did it is throwing HUGE red flags in our opinion... to sum it up the therapist picks an alter they prefer, makes an introject of themselves then encourages chosen alter and introject to systematically deleate any and all other alters ESPECIALLY littles!


Four Stages of Transactional Analysis

Transactional analysis psychotherapy usually moves through four stages:

1.The client is able to recognize and take control of their scripts and script behaviors, but the scripts still exist. They are able to manage and control their dysfunctional behaviors in social situations. The client achieves social control, the state in which the client’s control comes from the position of the Adult ego state.

2.In the symptomatic relief stage, the client begins altering their Child and Parent and is less likely to devolve into their scripts.

3.The client and therapist engage in the transference cure, where the client introjects the therapist as a replacement for their original parental figures.

4. Finally, in the script cure, the client can move away from the script entirely and make fundamental changes in the Child, with the support of the Adult.

Transactionnal Analysis uses words like "adult" and "child" but it has NOTHING TO DO with "adult identities" and "child identities" in DID.

TA is about understanding behavior patterns and the nicknames "adult" "child" and "parent" are nicknames of groups of pattern behaviors.

I read a book about TA a couple years ago and started to pinpoint which of my alters contains which behavior patterns and well, any alter can contain any pattern behavior. My Little contains very few "child patterns" and contains even some "parent patterns" ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ The other "child patterns" are contained in adult parts for me.

The vocabulary is super super confusing. It is not a therapy in itself but it is first and foremost a behavior patterns analysis tool. It can be used to pinpoint maladapted behavior patterns and give hints on how to have more adapted behavior patterns, but that's about it.

Once again, what TA calls "adult" "child" and "parent" are behavior patterns and not parts, alters or identities. An alter/identity can contain any mix of behavior patterns.

I agree with you that it is too confusing to use for DID therapy. This analysis tool is better used for integrated people.

Unless you really feel like taking hours to pinpoint which behavior patterns are contained in which of your parts but seriously, unless you really have time to spare, it's best to go towards other tools better suited for DID. Or you can rename the different behavior patterns. The "TA adult" are "the parts in the present" as well as some "apparently normal parts", the "TA child" are more "emotional parts" and some "protectors", and the "TA parents" are more like "apparently normal parts" and some "protectors" and "gatekeepers"

I can try to do a more in-depth comparison between TA vocabulary and structural dissociation vocabulary if you are interested. Though TA is more interesting in analysing the behaviors of people interacting with each-others rather than working with the parts IMO. Seriously trying to use TA to work with the parts is a pain in the brain. Not worth the effort IMO.

I found the first paragraph confusing where it says the 'therapist picks the alter they like and creates an introject of them self' ..I'm thinking how does the therapist get an introject of them self into someone else's system???

Some of our parts have mixed roles..eg Sioux and Jody are still teens themselves but 'parent' to the littles on the inside. I guess our 'social mask alters' would be ANP's??? ..but not necessarily played a 'parent role' as most were completely unaware at time of fronting (in the past) they were even part of a system

I (Jay) am the one mostly here in the present but others can switch out to the front too if they want to and now all past alters are aware of our 'present' outside world situation. Most have chosen themselves now whether they prefer the inner world or outside world and if or how often they wish to 'visit'. (The few exceptions being the fragment trauma memory parts that have always remained in a simple animal form to prevent them passing their memories on to the littles).

And transactional analysis isn't new at all. It's around since 1958.

It's also what started the concept of ego states and is the main starting point of the ego states therapy, which when trauma and dissociation informed, can be usefull for dissociative disorders. In Fench speaking countries, we have Olivier Piedfort-Marin who have talked in a few articles about what ego states therapy can brings to therapy for traumatized and dissociative patients, it's really interesting.

But TA itself isn't a therapy for traumatized people. It's made to understand social interactions, in term of exchanges between people (transactions). The name of "parts" given are supposed to be understood in term of "social attitudes/role" and not dissociative parts. For example, it's the basis of the Karpman drama triangle, with the Persecutor/Rescuer/Victim roles. So yep, it's not made for DID at all, but it has nothing to do with erasing dissociative parts or picking one ald turning them into an introject. Not at all.

Thanks guys for the clarification. Its currently being peddled on tumblr in the format I posted as a "if your friend with did can't afford a therapist heres how you can cure them in 4 easy steps"

Still not suitable for did but from what your saying an actual trained therapist using the actual ta method wouldn't use in on did anyway.

@triforce I wasn't sure either i mean any introject is still part of the system but I figured the "therapist" were imprinting on the system somehow the same way you can have introjects of abusers who feel more loyalty to the abuser than the system.

I hate to say, but that sounds like something that would do more harm than good in terms of trying to 'cure' someone of DID. I know that not everyone can afford or have access to therapy, but at the same time, that kind of self-therapy probably will hurt a lot more.

But yeah, that sounds very confusing.

Vi

Exactly!

Gosh if DID was so easy to cure, there would not be brick-like books such as "Coping with trauma related dissociation" and the like and therapy would not take 10-30 years. What therapist in their right mind would want to spend 30 years on the same person if "4 easy steps" could do the trick and cure many more people?

Not to mention there wouldn't be a lack of therapists who could treat such trauma. Our T and us have discussed that, if she didn't have some experience with DID, she would have struggled to find anyone nearby who could have coped, and even at that, she's had to do additional research just to treat us.