Impossible backgrounds

Most of you probably know already, that in our system parts that I'm aware of have different backgrounds stories than me. They're the kind they're impossible to be true for us in real outside the way it happened to them. I don't think they all are just stories tho, I think there's a lot hidden in there.

I feel it's uncommon to have parts with their own backgrounds. I wanna talk to the ones who have it like this, with one or more parts, and all who know anything about it. Does anyone know how common is it?

I'm thinking about how much truth there is. I realize emotions have to be real, they have faced something that led them to feel certain way, but in the symbolic background the reason for the emotion can be different, all it has to do is to give an solid explanation to a feeling. Right? But then, nothing else really doesn't have to be true. But a lot can.

Have you found out how different the story was for them than the real life version of it? How was their version of it like, and how was the actual thing like, when you got to know. Where were the differences? Or how it was to someone else you know, who got to know that in their system?

I know that can also vary a lot, and in a way that is not important to me what actually happened. I find it important that I know what their triggers are and that they get help and start feeling better. If you can do that without ever getting to know about what it really was, that's fine with me. I'm not looking for my past in therapy, I'm looking for cure. But is it possible to work with trauma feelings and cure them without finding out what it really was about?

Floralie

Reyna posted about something like that here: https://www.psychforums.com/dissociative-identity/topic214414.html#p2242397. She tried to analyse the double-meaning of it as a way to "tame" the memory. And I must admit, I feel more at peace with the events lived by the body, now that they are "encrypted" by Reyna. Sorry for your pain, Reyna. I never meant for you to "take one for the team". :'(

We all have different backstories than the body's. Same with our best friends Team PSI. From what we have discussed about it, Team PSI and us, the backstories either give a sense of self to the person in question (who am I, why am I here...) (case for David or Ulysses for example)(okay it's kinda easier for fictive introjects...) that is more individual than just being an alter in a system, or they can "encrypt" feelings in a more or less symbolic way. This is the case for Reyna's post (see above) or some of Team PSI's members. Example with one of PSI's middles who has memories of tortures who sound a lot like a horror version of some medical exams PSI's body recieved during childhood - and which were percieved as torture-like, especially since the adults around were neither supportive nor gentle.

Storytelling is a way to deal with difficult events. Boris Cyrulnik worked on that subject, among other things. One of his books at least is translated to english (Whispering of ghosts, if I remember properly)(yes it's non-fiction. I love how his titles are storytelling by themselves). So, as long as somewhere it's archived in the brain what is "self storytelling" and what is "objective physical fact", in my opinion (and Ulysses' too) it's safe and healthy to have the "self storytelling".

--Zami--

We have at least two parts who have backgrounds that are difficult to accept, logically.

I find it very fascinating, but also very difficult to talk (or write) about because it kind of indirectly triggers some of us.

V1

I think that memories in themselves are tricky. I think it is impossible to remember something 100 percent correctly. Then if you have DID and different alters remember things differently. It can be a mess. So I would say that's common. It doesnt really matter in the end. Your emotions count for something. I'd just try to pay close attention to those and maybe you will get clues about triggers.

I'm unsure if I'm interpreting this correctly. I believe you're asking about the inner-world history that alters come with?
If so, then yes, from what I've seen, most alters do come with their own backstory. And sometimes it is very extreme (very intense trauma). As for the logic of it, I don't know. I usually just take an inner world's rules of operation (just how it works) as they are.
I do know that the subconscious/brain will go to extreme lengths to get things as they should be, people where they should be. Multiplicity & Me talked about this here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0tE0hOcV_o
Don't worry about whether it makes sense. Being multiple is a special state of existence that doesn't follow anyone's rules.

I have thought about responding to this, I had you as a foe because for some reason you trigger the twins (that's a me problem not a you problem) but your post is so much around what I've been thinking about I decided to reply.

Most selves in this body have backgrounds. Patrick and Rose are married, Rose was abused by her father and Patrick is like her rock - she's very anxious and driven at doing the right thing but Patrick is more laid back.

Paul and Lilly are run aways because they were abused by their parents. They got heavily into drugs but Rose and Patrick took them in and helped them.

Mandy is a child of Paul and Lilly but they couldn't look after her so they gave her to the twins.

Karen and Beth do not have background stories. Karen was around from a young age and Beth first remembers her talking to her at age 8. No-one doesn't have a background story either but she feels like she was only around from teenage years not before. These are the only parts with memory of actual trauma. But these trauma happened all after age 11.

The twins don't so much have a background story as constantly live in a fantasy environment internally. I realised recently that the "dreaming of being a witch" as a child is pretty much the same thing as them "dreaming they own loads of stuff" now - day dreaming and magical thinking which I guess stays age appropriate.

My theory on it all is: I was in an incredibly toxic environment growing up. I was very imaginative and would loose myself in playing imagination games to block out reality of my home life. My mother would also get us to meditate and do yoga from very small which I think facilitated the imagination to become a blocking out and changing memories in my mind. As it went on for my whole childhood (and I'm still being indirectly abused by my parents now) more and more parts were born to accommodate all the abuse. So although the actual abuse is locked in traumatized child fragments the parts have abuse stories always around abused by parents. Except the twins, who like I said live in fantasy that sometimes annoyingly coincides with actual events in the news and they therefore if not sufficiently suppressed can cause delusions, of what I can only describe as "delusions of grandeur" They're not around at the moment but I know what they would be saying, because I know them so well, they would be saying "we own the avocado farms in Mexico. The Cartels were attacking our trucks. So we paid the police to arrest the current leader of the Cartels" That's the kind of thing they love, the idea of that and I can logically know that'd be their current one but they're not around so it's not problem of them getting really excited about it and going on and on till it's driving everyone else mad.

So the backgrounds I feel have some basis in reality (except the twins) I was in a toxic abusive environment, I did take drugs and sleep on the streets for part of my teens. Their personalities and differences are harder to understand in a way.

-- Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:20 am --

I forgot No-one does claim she had a bf called Ty, who was a transgender male. He had a sex change and to her Ty "died" she was very upset about it. So this I don't know if Ty is an alter or if it's a daydreaming caused by the twins because they effectively knocked her out from early twenties till very recently. But it's still not really a background story and No-one has real memory from teenage years but nothing before that and in the knocked out years was in this relationship with Ty. But Beth is also her gf. So that's all quite complicated and "impossible"