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Deja vu, precognition, and dissociative states

Postby BeccaBee » Thu Aug 04, 2016 3:13 am

I get deja vu fairly frequently and what I swear are episodes of precognition. like today I very vividly was floored by remembering that I had dreamed this very thing several years before.

but with my memory being $#%^ anyway....I don't know.

I guess I am just wondering if there is a higher incidence of deja vu among those with dissociated states. and if so hypothesis on how D states contributes to the phenomenon of experiencing deja vu.
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Re: Deja vu, precognition, and dissociative states

Postby WickedCheetah » Thu Aug 04, 2016 3:04 pm

I do know I experience a lot of uncanny cases of deja vu and, personally, it gets pretty bothersome if it occurs too regularly. Perhaps people with DID do have it more often, to be honest I never gave that possibility much thought. But it sounds pretty reasonable to me! I do hope those instances don't inconvenience you too much.
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Re: Deja vu, precognition, and dissociative states

Postby spinningtops » Thu Aug 04, 2016 5:10 pm

many of my hallucinatory states i can attribute to splitting/fragmenting/disassociating, and thus assume what I am seeing is probably not meaningful except for to myself.
But I have had a few strange events that I cannot think of an explanation for. Like knowing down to the day my grandfather's death.. things like that.

I guess we don't really understand how the world works, and no one has it figured out even if they think they do.
I have a could possible ideas. They may seem a little large in thought..

For one I wonder, as there is a very major divide between people. For instance there are a lot of people saying spiritual or psychic events are real and they experience them. And there are Science types who think the others who say this are wrong.
But it makes me wonder, if some event in life can trigger an opening up of the brain for this sort of thing.
The second theory, is it has to do with the universe itself. Like how the atoms react to scientists who look at them. So then based on how we see the world, the world makes itself, while doing this simultaneously for all people, so each person has a whole reality that is made to make sense and fit to them.
In addition, we may have a world here that for whatever reason is set up to deny that there is anything non scientific going on. So that most events there will be a plausible explanation. Or people will automatically be conditioned to not really listen to or take in what someone is saying about their out of normal experience.
Basically, this world would make sense, if it was set up as a cover up for whatever reason.
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Re: Deja vu, precognition, and dissociative states

Postby perpetuo27 » Thu Aug 04, 2016 7:52 pm

i've had this happen quite a few times. even more strange though is where i will say something and then within a few seconds (rarely minutes), someone on TV will say the same thing or close to it. it's been witnessed too a few times. it happened SO many times that i started telling people about it cuz it started freaking me out.

but the deja vu is very odd. i recently had it happen too...it was like a weird time loop where it played in my head just before things were happening, but it was only the same up until a certain point. it still was weird...and when you can't actually place when it happened before...if it even did. i read up on it once because i was curious about the explanation of it.
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Re: Deja vu, precognition, and dissociative states

Postby BeccaBee » Thu Aug 04, 2016 10:09 pm

I think deja vu and precognition are two entirely different phenomenon although I experience both.

I get deja vu about once a week. and I wonder if it has something to do with being a bit dissociated. like maybe I am slightly phased out and when I come back I feel like I have been there before. but maybe it's just because my awareness was all slidey and weird.

I have had episodes of precognition all my life. it is usually pretty ordinary and mundane although my intuition has been credited with a few life saving occurences. who really knows though?

yesterday I was putting groceries away and thinking about my job interview and how I needed a haircut and putting my sunglasses on the dresser and it was just so weird! because I remember having this strange and vivid dream about four years ago that was this exact thing. I don't know what the name of this is....but it is weird. when you know you dreamt about something before it happened.
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Re: Deja vu, precognition, and dissociative states

Postby Nondescript » Sun Aug 07, 2016 7:49 pm

According to Sebern Fisher, people with DID often have a very high rate of epileptiform waves (particular patterns that occur more often in people with epilepsy than in the "normal" population) in their EEG. People with epilepsy often experience deja vu as an early sign of or part of seizures. I have noted that dissociative states and deja vu experiences have a high correlation (in real time) with slower and epileptiform brainwaves on my own EEG. So I think it's very possible that frequent deja vu is connected to the slower brainwaves typically associated with strong dissociation.

On precognition, I'm a skeptic. I admit I've had many uncanny experiences that could be assumed to be precognitive. In the past, I heard voices outside or inside giving me guidance or telling me the outcome of things, and thought they were spiritual guidance. Since discovering DID, I realize that most of these were due to DID. The ones I remember best happened at important junctures in my life, but in reality, I hear voices all the time. In the past, I only noticed it when they were particularly disembodied or happening in a dramatic moment, which is what made them notable. But at times, a voice gave me important information that was no knowable through regular means and that helped me stay safe or better respond to an upcoming emergency. I guess this was also due to an alter, perhaps an alter who is very in tune somehow.
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Re: Deja vu, precognition, and dissociative states

Postby doublefrick » Mon Aug 08, 2016 3:04 am

perpetuo27 wrote:i've had this happen quite a few times. even more strange though is where i will say something and then within a few seconds (rarely minutes), someone on TV will say the same thing or close to it. it's been witnessed too a few times. it happened SO many times that i started telling people about it cuz it started freaking me out.


OMG THIS!!!!
This happens all the time lately...and it freaks me out. Like, HOW?!?!?
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Re: Deja vu, precognition, and dissociative states

Postby shininglights » Sun Nov 13, 2016 7:38 pm

Hi all,

Sorry to revive an old thread but I’ve always been interested in déjà vu (and experienced it many times to the point that I felt like a psychic or something) so I had to put my 2 cents in.

As I said earlier in this post, I've experienced a lot of déjà vu in my life, often just for visual images (i.e. I'll enter a room or realize I've seen what I was doing at that moment before.) The effect is often for "memories" that are long-standing—by this, I mean that when I experience déjà vu, the "first time" I saw or dreamed whatever triggered it feels like it was years ago.

I always assumed that the constant déjà vu was just because I'm a little weird—never thought of the possible relation between it and being dissociative—so seeing this thread was a little eye-opening (which is why I'm posting this, I guess. Lol)

BeccaBee, you also mention "precognition", which I may or may not also have experience with. One of the ways I navigate life by making predictions—I'm pretty good at it, I think—especially when it comes to interpersonal stuff like people's emotions, how they'll respond to things, etc. As someone on this board has said before, I'm a bit of a "mind reader". But I don't know if this is directly related to what you mean.
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Re: Deja vu, precognition, and dissociative states

Postby Raindrops » Tue Nov 15, 2016 7:14 pm

shininglights wrote:Hi all,

Sorry to revive an old thread


I'm actually glad this was revived as I find it quite interesting. I have experienced deja vu que a bit in my life but didn't give it a second or third thought much.

Lately as I've been trying to connect inside myself , I feel that I am also becoming connected outside world somehow. One thing I have noticed a lot lately is that keep thinking of people from my past & then eerily they pop up out of no where!
Not sure if it has anything to do with dissociation or just simply being more aware overall, although sometimes it seems to be more than that.
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Re: Deja vu, precognition, and dissociative states

Postby MarchMadness » Wed Nov 16, 2016 8:35 pm

That's an interesting question with a lot of interesting responses. I'm not the only one! At least once a month I will have Deja Vu experiences, sometimes prolonged in and out all day, where I feel as if I have dreamed or done what I am presently doing at a previous time. It's very surreal when it goes on for an hour or more but I have taken it to mean that I am exactly where I'm supposed to be, that I am on the right track instead of something ominous. I have also wondered if it is some form of dissociation. Whatever it is it has never had any negative effects for me. As far as precognition, I have watched movies before that are brand new that I felt I had watched before and I could tell you what is going to happen next and that is very eerie. I have no explanation for this except to say maybe I saw an advertisement or trailer with that scene in it. It has only happened with movies and TV. I have stopped letting it bother me and it is happening less. Also, I think many people have some kind of connection because so many think of calling each other at the same time or sense when someone important to them is in trouble etc. This happens so often it's undeniable, in my opinion. Is it precognition? I don't think so but what do I know? None of these things have ever turned negative for me, they just are what they are.
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