A bit of a surprise..

So there's been two new additions to our family today. Most of the time that an alter has revealed herself to us we've had an idea about who they are and met them several times beforehand. Only exception for this was Leo - who I (Nin) didn't know about but the rest of the system did.

Today though - we've all been kind of surprised (I'm guessing with the exception of Leo). We've always thought we're just girls/women. Even Fighter - who has a seemingly good grasp of the system - has thought we were just us girls. Well, this morning we had another girl introduce herself (though timidly) and.. a boy.

I had a hard time believing it at first, thought I surely just made him up. But in my head, all day long non stop since it happened, has his name been ringing "Jacob. Jacob. Jacob. Jacob" and an image flashing of a boy in the house where we grew up at that age every now and again. I have a vague remembrance of his name, but I can't say from what or where. It's just some distant memory of something.

They are, seemingly, between age 11-14 somewhere.

And now a girl's name has started ringing ever so lightly in my head too..

So we thought we'd welcome both this new girl and our surprise and introduce them to all of you!

- Nin

hiya

Hi Bug!

It's nice of you to post here - you're very sweet. Hopefully our two newcomers will sense your hello And if not then the rest of us appreciate it all the same

- Nin

This sounds so familiar with the way so many of us here have become known to me, a sort of drifting of a name or an image or both, the vaguest sense of familiarity and yet no conscious knowledge of how I know. It's good, of course, that this is coming to you, congratulations. I feel so much better when I know who we are, all of us. I know that boys that age are great, I've got a couple around that and they keep me feeling young. Probably too young, but young!

I'm glad to hear it sounds familiar, Johnny. Kinda helps in realizing it's true Thank you for the congratulations - it's most certainly a joyous occasion. It has helped my everyday life and my way of being and feeling immensely to know my alters and understand why we are the way we are. It's such a gift to get to know each one of them

I've not been around boys that age much but hopefully I won't mess up too bad
- Nin

Hi Jacob and new girl too! We've got a boy around that age, Jake (similar name too, how funny!). He's very sweet. It's kind of nice to have a boy around, even though he did make me cut off all my hair when I was a teenager, but I've forgiven him for that

Hello and welcome to Jacob and the new girl! I'm so glad that you've "found" them and that you can start learning more about them now that you know they're there. The name repeating and stuff definitely sounds familiar to me, too, as well as the image flashes (except I usually get a flash of what they look like or even just a shadowed figure standing alone or something).

lifelongthing wrote:I've not been around boys that age much but hopefully I won't mess up too bad
- Nin

I doubt you'll "mess up" enough to call it a mess-up. I think the only real difference is the gender issue. He might be young enough to not really care, or he might not care anyway, I don't know. Just make sure to be understanding that your body could be strange to him and that he might need a bit extra help feeling like a boy sometimes (like getting him a toy car or something as a little pick-me-up). The boy twins are older and I'm not co-conscious with them, so they might be a very different situation, but I know that Dallas definitely misses "being" a guy, and Damone has a hard time dealing with all the differences. If Jacob ever feels similar, try getting him some clothes that he likes or something. It'll help him feel more like him. I know that it's sometimes the only thing that helps Damone feel more comfortable when he's out.

Owleyes wrote:It's kind of nice to have a boy around, even though he did make me cut off all my hair when I was a teenager, but I've forgiven him for that

Haha, Dallas and Damone have done that to me before (without me realizing it was them). And between them and tomboy L.C., I think I've finally realized why I've been going in a grow-out-hair-long then cut-hair-really-short cycle for a long time (despite saying that I'm going to keep it long).

Hi Jacob and new girl too! We've got a boy around that age, Jake (similar name too, how funny!). He's very sweet. It's kind of nice to have a boy around, even though he did make me cut off all my hair when I was a teenager, but I've forgiven him for that

Hi to both Owleyes and Jake! I would go in phases of not wanting to touch my girlish clothes at all and want short hair when I was younger (and even stronger lately) but I never equated it to anything. Guess we get the answers later on huh

The name repeating and stuff definitely sounds familiar to me, too, as well as the image flashes (except I usually get a flash of what they look like or even just a shadowed figure standing alone or something).

Yeah - the image of the boy that keeps flashing is the alter himself. I can see some of him, but not all. But it's him yeah. Jacob seems to want to communicate what he looks like more than most of the others have done this early in getting to know them - but that seems only natural considering so far he's also the only one with a different gender to mine.

I think the only real difference is the gender issue. He might be young enough to not really care, or he might not care anyway, I don't know. Just make sure to be understanding that your body could be strange to him and that he might need a bit extra help feeling like a boy sometimes (like getting him a toy car or something as a little pick-me-up). The boy twins are older and I'm not co-conscious with them, so they might be a very different situation, but I know that Dallas definitely misses "being" a guy, and Damone has a hard time dealing with all the differences. If Jacob ever feels similar, try getting him some clothes that he likes or something. It'll help him feel more like him. I know that it's sometimes the only thing that helps Damone feel more comfortable when he's out.

On the topic of clothes: These past 5 or so months several of us have been having this really strong pull to buy less feminine clothes (and sometimes flat-out manly) but when our 3 y/o revealed herself - very much a tomboy - we figured it had all come from her and thought no more about it, even though looking back, the desire to wear very very manly things seems to not come from her at all, her just wanting to not look girly not being the same level nor intensity. I will definitely try to keep an eye on any uncomfortable feelings he might have about the body.

Haha, Dallas and Damone have done that to me before (without me realizing it was them). And between them and tomboy L.C., I think I've finally realized why I've been going in a grow-out-hair-long then cut-hair-really-short cycle for a long time (despite saying that I'm going to keep it long)

Been there so many times! This morning I woke up with a pretty intense with to get this haircut:

Though I've been growing my hair out for months and months now (well really for years and years but it's always either fallen out or I've had some intense need to go cut it off ). Now then.. Must resist


One thing though: Anyone out there have a clue about boys that age? Boys in their late teens is a trigger for me and I find I know next to nothing about boys in that in-between really. Anyone with any info?

- Nin

I have a question.. Since saying who he was and his name - a passage from a rather sweet song has been going through my head. Problem is, this particular passage, when standing alone, is rather disturbing and dark - especially because of certain memories. I have tried writing it down, listening to the song, talking out loud/saying inside that I hear him and I'm sorry that it's so painful et cetera but the song won't stop. It's slightly less noticeable today but not by much. Over and over it goes simultaneously :
**trigger warning**
"Jacob. Jacob. Jacob. Jacob"
"Oh mommy and daddy why can't you hear our cries
The day is almost over, soon it will be night
We're so cold and hungry and our feet are tired and sore
We promise not to stray again from our cabin door"
[it's from a song by Alison Krauss called Jacob's Dream]
**trigger warning end**

So how do I make him realize that I am hearing him? Anyone have any ideas? Thank you for any help!

- Nin

-- Wed Sep 05, 2012 9:17 am --

I want help too! Along with Jacob's things I keep hearing over and over from the girl who said she's here that "She [Nin I think?] won't believe my name. She won't believe in my name/believe that it's my name". It doesn't really stop, can someone tell me what to tell her to make it stop when I can't find her on the inside either?

Kathryn always tries to point out the logical fallacy that presents itself that gives credence to this new alterI make him think about why I HAVE to be real

Ok well are you going to help then hun?
I'm thinkin

Alright, I realized when I was thinking about it that besides Jacob we only know that this other person is a girl, and that she doesn't think she will be believed. So we have to believe her, even if what she says might be unexpected. I think it's interesting she said that she won't be believed, I believe everything I think and half of what Perry says I take for value She already proved her existence within the mind through the paradoxical question of utterances being believable, one cannot assert they will not be believed on the basis of their existence, without making an utterance and validating their existence in that utterance.O.m.G

Sorry