LOVE?

I haven't read your "war and PIECE"... because I know it will be completely fruitless!

You NEVER attack guys on this forum...only women. A guy tells you that you have deep seated issues, and you tell him he O.K.? God forbid had a woman said it. You'd have her grinding at the thread. Twinnings perhaps?

You even did it with OBG. She merely started a thread to find out what OTHER people think love means to them!
She didn't say that she can't love...you've completely mis read what she has written, which is what you ALWAYS DO!
You're doing exactly what I said you do in my earlier posts within this thread. You NEVER LEARN ANYTHING
You're putting your own slant and dislike of women onto what you've read, instead of trying to understand what she has said.

Where is Dr. Phil for crying out loud. Will someone wheel him in here...PLEASE

I....R e s t.....M y.....C a s e Chopper Read

Manic, heres where we differ in what Love is. You see love in simple terms. We do not. Love is more than Sex.
You say that your some sort of master of all things sexual.Lets say by some chance you are. Big deal. There is way more to a committed loving relationship than sex. A couple can be having sex and love has not even entered the room. Sex can be selfish-each taking, not sharing. Sex does not equal love. And sex seems to be the only thing that you can boast about. Just because you can give your wife an orgasm does not make you any sort of authority on love. And just because other women may say they are attracted to you does mean they want to love you either. I'm sure as they hear you start to talk in that chauvinistic way you do, they change their minds.
Wake up Manic. Love is not so simple.
There is an emotional, mental and spiritual needs for love to be healthy. Finding that delicate balance takes work. Success and failures. A dance that improves over time. I'm in that dance. Sweetcheeks was too but, sometimes people leave and give up. That is not her fault and your insults are shockingly insensitive for a man who claims to be the Wise one in matters of love and women.
You have a bad habit on here of interrupting a conversation in threads and spouting off like your some sort of expert. But really Manic, Your just embarrassing yourself.
And as far as what you last posted to Sweetcheeks, you get an official warning for that. You are way out of line there.
If you have anything insulting you feel you need to say, you send it to me in a PM. This thread is here as a healthy way to explore Love and what people need or wish for. If you have something healthy and positive to say, then you can post here.
One

I thought the post was funny an cool, the abuse i have had from sweetcheeks , she has insulted my wife, children, metal health, education, an even cancer . An you give me a warning, have you read any other threads we cross sword,s in. The post was like a comedy sketch ,but you dont get it do you. I open myself to abuse but not my family .im not pesonally attacking anyone ,i am winding you up it called get a life. But in america every thing is abuse , i dont attack peoples wifes, an children, an mental health, like people do me. Do you think one ,that me an ruth revolve round sex , jesus woman our marrige is cool we are as one with each other. She is my carer , She finished work to care for me or i would be dead of something mental or physical, sweetcheeks dont play the game an plays the ace cards which is the pitts.Our dual,s produce large hits on the site if you care to look at the forum, i was haveing a laugh but sweetcheeks turned nasty as she was battered in the one on one fun dog fights. You one have taken offence in this thread because you think i was out of line with an answer to you. i aswered it in the way i saw it, you didnt answer it at all. Giveing me a warning is for something in the thread, not sweetchecks as she has abused me an got away with it for months. But for a moderator not as a woman you got this wrong,

What is it to you?
It is a mutually exclusive intimacy. It is a special connection.

Is there such a thing as one true love?
Love is what you make it. So yes, if you want.

How do you keep love?
By loving. Doing acts of love.

How would you best be loved?
My partner would be my best friend. An extension of myself.

The film and media are full of fantasies of what love Should be, but what has it really been for you?
Painful. Loved but never been loved. No relationships.

One
Two as one.

The post was like a comedy sketch ,but you dont get it do you.

Herein lies a typical example of "self projection". It's a formal term in psychology manic, and what it means is that what you've said is actually about YOU.

When people lack working on themselves, they get stuck, like a car stuck in the mud. It can't go anywhere and so when you put the pedal flat to the floor it revs, right? The only thing that is cranked up is the engine and noise. And so this is what people who are "stuck" do...they rev up and make noise but they never get anywhere. AND...because they are stuck, they are only hearing what's going on inside their heads. Their understanding of the world is totally limited to their own internal pain. They are too busy fighting their own demons and because they are so busy doing this, they constantly keep going round and round in circles, repeating their pain louder and louder, just like the car revving up. It doesn't go anywhere, it just gets louder. In other words manic...what you've said above is nothing more than you getting defensive. This is what people do who don't work on themselves. They just keep making excuses and getting defensive. They are cars that are stuck in the mud. AND if a car is stuck in the mud, it "aint about to hear" other cars driving along smoothly because it's too focused on being stuck!

The fact you've told OBG that "she doesn't get it?" is you getting defensive and choosing to stay stuck in your own mind. As I've said...you only read things through your own level of understanding, thus interpreting it based on your limited knowledge of the world.

What's the solution? Stop wasting time on this forum and go read books on self development. You desperately need to start learning something about the human condition and how it works. You're only stuck on your own pain, and I'm not talking about venting like I've been doing...I have the capacity to step outside of my pain. I'm well aware of what I'm doing and have said so 100 times, but you keep on assuming the same things based on your limited understanding of yourself.

Just as well I didn't read what you wrote, there is nothing nourishing about your words. They come from an ignorant perspective. You don't demonstrate any level of real intelligence, and by that I'm talking about emotional intelligence. You never add anything of value, they're only ever put downs. Why would anyone bother reading it?

AND before you tell me again that I've put down you and everyone in your life...NO...you have done that all by yourself through your chauvinistic examples, just like OBG has correctly stated. If you feel put down, it's because you don't feel good about yourself, so you're reading what is written through your mud coloured glasses. FACT! People are telling you this and you still deny it.

Now, use the day productively and go to a bookshop and go straight to the self development section. Spend your time wisely.

Manic. I have not followed any sort of on going issues with Sweetcheeks. If you are in an on going titt-for tatt with someone and you feel hurt-LET ME KNOW! That goes for everyone on here. All staff here are Volunteering and it is impossible to be every where. Manic if you were already having disagreements with Sweetcheeks, WHY come into a new thread and start up stuff when you know she is a regular in this topic? You came into this thread with insulting and arrogant comments.
Sweetcheeks you have made your point, please stop now. In my experience with Manic he has shown some moments of real insensitivity at times, but I honestly have also seen him be very gentle and supportive to others here.
Obviously you two have friction. You have both made things very clear to each other, so lets move on shall we?
With Care,
One

Yeah good point

As the old saying goes...you can lead a horse to water BUT....you can't make him drink it.

To be honest, I've got so many things to do that my son is right...and he does hammer me about the time I waste on here.

I've gotten from this forum what I've needed, and so now I need to invest time productively - my life.

Ciao

sweetcheeks wrote:Yeah good point

As the old saying goes...you can lead a horse to water BUT....you can't make him drink it.

To be honest, I've got so many things to do that my son is right...and he does hammer me about the time I waste on here.

I've gotten from this forum what I've needed, and so now I need to invest time productively - my life.

Ciao

I am sorry you thought you were wasteing your time on hear, i am sure people who answered you posts will love to here that. An im glad you were able to get all you needed, venting your anger on me an the world. I hope your horse gets a drink. an you get from being stuck in the mud with your car wheels.An the next 21 years are not spent chaseing rainbows.Good luck an goodbye.XX

I never said I was wasting my time here manic. In fact...I've always said that it's been incredibly therapeutic. I can't keep lashing out at X, it's counterproductive and just feeds his anger. So...telling the world about this removes my feelings of being cheated and ripped off.

Yes...I can't afford to spend the time I have been on here anymore. I've now fully vented and in fact, I have a sneaking suspicion that even venting on here will be counterproductive, so it's time to say....

So long, fare well
It's time to say good night
I hate, to go, and leave this experiential site
Good NIIIIIIIGHT....

I loved Julie Andrews in "The Sound of Music."
Did you know that it was a Rodgers and Hammerstein Production?

BTW...I'm sorry you have cancer, I didn't know that. It actually explains everything, BUT...I'll keep my opinions about this to myself.

Alfweedosane cherubs.

I don't really know what is love but what I feel like now. Love's gone somehow. I don't really know what you discussed in page 5 because I couldn't read it any longer.

I am sorry that you have hard times about "Love". It's a part of life, we just need to learn it.

Ray