Uhmm...

by PQ » Thu May 24, 2007 1:12 am

mark_8621 wrote:Mine never uses ummm.... apparently she is little more articulate.

Umm... no. All umm HPDs umm use ummm. Ummm k?

Reflecting on this some more... and on my pain with HPDs...

I'm going to return to my standard position on HPD behavior: most of it just fits with the melodrama they are sustaining.

Some of them may use "ummmmmm" just for some effect -- perhaps to convey the impression that they are actually pausing to think, empathize, really connect...

or something else really unlikely to be coming out of them.

:: apologies for my bad mood on the subject ::

by PQ » Wed May 30, 2007 9:19 pm

LoveQuiet wrote:
I believe this a common element of hysteria (bipolar, histrionic, borderline, etc). Opinions?

no more than blue eyes.
or brown eyes.
or freckles.

Show me a controlled research study's results, and only then will I believe it.

--Wearing my skeptical hat today

You view correlations as defaulted when not proven; there is no doubt your latter point is a good one - there is no such study. However, the nature of this thread clearly indicates we are only speculating, leading me to wonder why you made this point in the first place. I did say "I believe".

To say "no more than blue eyes. or brown eyes. or freckles." is also implying a correlation - that there is an even rate of "Ummms" amongst eye color.

You attempt to choose eye color because you think it has no relation upon a person, when in actuality, there is likely a possibility that eye color can be related to many things, seeing as how blue eyes are most prevalent in northern Europeans and brown eyes are most prevalent in Asia, this implies two separate cultures with distinct values and effects upon the people pertaining to these cultures.

My overall point is that you can not be certain either way until you have done a study, and unless a study covers everyone, it is really only a statistically based assumption with a deviation. If you are going to make a counter point, don't do so as you did above. It is flawed.

by **Roni** » Thu May 31, 2007 1:08 am

In my high school speech class, my teacher called utterances like "uhmm" "vocal pauses." (In public speaking, vocal pauses are no-no's.) If HPDs do it more, my guess is it just stems from their attentional problems. When they momentarily lose their train of thought, it fills in the gap.

by **lobstermanne** » Thu May 31, 2007 5:14 pm

Or they just need the processing time to deal with (or construct a denail) something that conflicts with their reality?

I think we can agree that they have these conflicts a little more than most.

by **digital.noface** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 12:03 pm

As contrived and unrealistic as that sounds, lobster, I'd have to agree. At any one point in time, an HPD is running several realities on standby, and has a dozen more on the shelf. It does get confusing and complicated discerning which person subscribes to which reality, which realities conflict with which other realities, and in what ways, and then consequently what can be done or said in front of which people in which circumstances, and what reality should be applied.

by **lobstermanne** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 6:18 pm

Didn't mean to sound contrived. Just trying to work on myself so I geuss that is a contrivance of sorts. No offence taken by the way.

but...

[quote]It does get confusing and complicated discerning which person subscribes to which reality, which realities conflict with which other realities, and in what ways, and then consequently what can be done or said in front of which people in which circumstances, and what reality should be applied.
[/quote]

What a marvelous gramatical construction! It so hits the nail on the head.

So, can one's actions and reposnses be controlled to summon the particular reality, and specific behavior desired from the other?

An interesting thought.

by **rockergirl** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 6:32 pm

Uhmm...

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