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Cyclic dissociation with heavy eyes; what's going on?

Postby domolomo » Sun Apr 07, 2019 6:55 am

Hi all, new to the forum. Hoping you can help me identify what's been going on lately, either with similar experience or in pointing me towards some reading. I've looked around at various dissociations, but none of them really seem to match up with what's been going on for me. For background, I'm a mid-20s male with no serious medical past.

Throughout the past year I've been having a strange cyclic occurrence, and it seems to be happening more frequently and getting stronger. I'll be going about my day, and then I'll feel my eyes start to get incredibly heavy, and along with this my mind goes into a fog. I can still function, but mild to moderate confusion absolutely accompanies this, and my ability to communicate with people also gets quite affected. To clarify, this has nothing to do with being tired -- although it shares heaviness of eyes, it is something entirely different. In fact, when this happens my eyes feel much heavier than they ever do when I'm actually tired. I can feel it start to come on like a wave, and steadily grow into a hazy state. At this point I usually try to dissociate from whatever I'm doing and go for a walk, but sometimes that is not a possibility, and then it can be quite tricky to carry on around my peers as if nothing is occurring. I'm a bit worried that this is going to continue to build, and I'm not exactly sure what that entails. If I'm in this fog when I actually do lay down for the night, I wake up feeling like the previous day was actually several ago.

Any insight would be appreciated, and I'm also happy to answer any questions if that would help.

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Re: Cyclic dissociation with heavy eyes; what's going on?

Postby SystemFlo » Sun Apr 07, 2019 11:40 am

Trauma changes how brains work, and that is why dissociative symptoms can be almost anything. That can be dissociation symptom, but it can be due to something medical as well, so don't assume anything but contact a neurologist first. If there's nothing wrong with you physically and or doc says that doesn't sound like a symptom of any neurological thing, go back to your theory about it being psychological (although it still is neurological, since trauma affects the brain).

My brains were CT scanned after I had difficulty to understand what I see, and after that and neurological examination doc said it can be something dissociative, and since I knew at that point I do have DD (although am not sure if I was actually diagnosed with it yet), it sounded logical.

I haven't had exact same kind of symptom, but sometimes I do fell in sleep sitting up (and there's a really good reason to believe it is certain part(s?) who knocks me off when he uses the body.) Sometimes my eyes just start to close, they don't feel heavy tho, and I will fell in sleep sitting down for a sec until my head drops and I wake up, get my head up again, fell in sleep again immediately, my head goes down again, I wake up again, etc. That can continue for from 30 mins to 2 hours (I have recorded myself in that state) and then I'm suddenly perky again and continue with what I was doing. BUT I do have difficulties knowing when I'm actually tired. I can go to bed and not be tired at all, but fell in sleep in few minutes. Sometimes my eyes can close because I'm starting to fell in sleep and I still don't feel tired at all.. But the foggy feeling you described with it, hasn't happened to me as far as I remember.
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Re: Cyclic dissociation with heavy eyes; what's going on?

Postby Amythyst » Sun Apr 07, 2019 11:43 am

We get that frequently. For us, it's usually accompanied by dizziness, and some degree of depersonalization and/or derealization.

For us, we believe that it's caused by someone else trying to push out past us, or just getting very close to front and crowding us a bit. It's like being pulled backwards a little bit away from front, not far enough away to fully switch or black out, but enough to notice the altered /reduced level of consiousness.

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Re: Cyclic dissociation with heavy eyes; what's going on?

Postby Sarandipity » Mon Apr 08, 2019 1:24 am

I have this when one alter is "going to sleep" and another alter is "waking up" It happens when I'm not consciously aware "I'm going to shift personality state of mind" When I'm consciously aware it feels more like one sliding in from the side and one sliding out the other.

Sometimes with the falling asleep feeling if I close my eyes for just a few seconds it passes quicker and I suddenly am not "feeling sleepy" It is like feeling sleepy but definitely different to actually feeling sleepy. As you say if you do fall asleep like this is can feel like days have passed instead of hours. The only time this feeling has happened and I've slept and not lead to the feeling of days passing is when no-one fronted alone briefly and then got so tired but when the feeling came she just fell asleep instead of someone else taking over. It was like complete acknowledgement of her time which I don't think she's ever had before. We completely forgot about her and we have very limited personal memories of anything to do with her other than significant time gaps where we have no idea what she was doing. I don't think she's withholding information from us, she doesn't think much at all and her thoughts take so long to form possibly by the time she's ready to tell us something we've moved on to something else. We need to give her time to talk to us.

But yes I have this feeling and for me it's usually because I'm changing alter.
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Re: Cyclic dissociation with heavy eyes; what's going on?

Postby subversiverisks » Mon Apr 08, 2019 2:16 pm

An eye sprinkling of water and cool nap is my Choice. Explaining a boring talk might help. Eye emphasize is a good way to start a share! A similarity is it easy to know where Ive might have been. To charades! A good split coping group inpatient now for treats!
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