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New alters trying to form

Postby Nowiamone » Wed Jul 04, 2018 5:42 pm

A new alter tried to form about two weeks after my nurse self left. She started by asking questions about myself I already know. That's how I figured that is wasn't my own thoughts. Instead of answering, I asked questions and she began to answer. She asked to be apart of me and I allowed her. I soon realized this wasn't a good relationship because she would take control and binge eat. My faith is strong and I demanded her to leave in Jesus name and she did. It left me with a terrible headache on my right side. This the same side that felt inactive after my nurse alter left.
I had one other similar experience after this then nothing. It was quiet in my mind. I thought I was cured and went to work in a clinic.
After working four months I broke and since then I have had to stop new alters from trying to form. I minister to them and they leave but new ones come back at least twice a week. Can anyone related?
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Baby girl, Olivia, and Gabriel(boy) are the littles. Abigail(Spiritual guide), Mary(Nurse and previous host) and I(current host) are older. I like to think with the Holy Spirit I am seven in one, the Holy Spirit completes me.
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Re: New alters trying to form

Postby NyxX » Wed Jul 04, 2018 9:13 pm

Hi, I've read your other posts as well. From what you have described your system used to work more effectively when you and your nurse part worked together and since she has left you have been unable to form an effective relationship with any other alters.

For us our symptoms get worse when we aren't on the same page. So we try to work together and to agree on things when we can. And when we can't we try to accept what the other alters are thinking or feeling and to make room for it in our lives as well respecting our own thoughts and feelings.
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Re: New alters trying to form

Postby Nowiamone » Wed Jul 04, 2018 9:44 pm

Yes, you are absolutely correct. Do you think it is possible for her to comeback? I would love to be able to function again. Or should I allow new alters to form? I had two therapy session before my insurance ran out at the free clinic. They provide therapy only to people with insurance. I tried to talk to her about it but it was like she didn't care about that. She just want to know if the voices said destructive things. I told her no and she moved on.
We all respond to our given name but have taken other names to distinguish our selves.
Baby girl, Olivia, and Gabriel(boy) are the littles. Abigail(Spiritual guide), Mary(Nurse and previous host) and I(current host) are older. I like to think with the Holy Spirit I am seven in one, the Holy Spirit completes me.
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Re: New alters trying to form

Postby TheGangsAllHere » Wed Jul 04, 2018 9:55 pm

I mentioned this in another thread, but alters don't actually leave, so I'm sure she can come back. It's also not clear from what you've written whether new alters are "forming" or are just coming into your awareness and then receding. It's usually a good idea to "allow" alters to communicate with you if they want to, unless it's becoming overwhelming, then you can ask them to back off.
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Re: New alters trying to form

Postby NyxX » Wed Jul 04, 2018 10:02 pm

It depends on the system and what happened to her. Some alters can reform themselves. I do that I'm not sure how exactly I've only been aware of the process once but Z says its happened countless times. Others just go dormant. The one thing I'm sure of is that the things that made her, her are not gone but still inside you somewhere. So she could come back as she was or back as someone new.

I'd say try contacting anyone inside write or talk or draw or whatever works for you. If they are reluctant to come out because of your past disagreements it might take time and effort.

If the last few years since my crisis (I've not called it that before but I guess it fits better then anything else) began the most progress I have made is by myself through learning and understanding and accepting what is happening to me. I think having the right T helps but that doesn't mean you can't make progress without. But I think it would be like trying to learn to be a nurse without going to college. You can learn alot independently from books but its best to learn from an experienced teacher.
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Re: New alters trying to form

Postby Nowiamone » Wed Jul 04, 2018 10:28 pm

Thanks for answering TheGangsAllhere. I replied to the other post as well. I don't allow the new alters to say too much before I start praying or reading the bible then they go away. They usaully start by asking questions that I already know.
The two experiences I mentioned above are the only times I entertained the questioning. The first alter Olivia binge ate and the other seem to me evil and hated God. Neither one shared any memories or seem to know me. So I prayed both away. It is overwhelming when the voices talk. Next time I will listen to what they have to say but usually they just ask questions. The favorite is How kids do you have?

Thanks NyxX,
When Abigail merged and took the other two she told me that they were still apart of me and would alway be there just not as a voice. Her saying that still brings me comfort. But nurse self's merger was more traumatic. She said I would fail without her. She could be hiding, you've given me something to work on. Thank you.
We all respond to our given name but have taken other names to distinguish our selves.
Baby girl, Olivia, and Gabriel(boy) are the littles. Abigail(Spiritual guide), Mary(Nurse and previous host) and I(current host) are older. I like to think with the Holy Spirit I am seven in one, the Holy Spirit completes me.
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Re: New alters trying to form

Postby raptureblues » Wed Jul 04, 2018 10:58 pm

I don't think it's a good idea to pray your alters "away" like that. As others have said, alters can go dormant or recede out of awareness, but they don't "disappear".

I think it's important to think of what you want from your alters. You want to cope and function better, but you have to meet your alters halfway and acknowledge their existence in order to work towards better functioning. They aren't possessing you, they aren't evil, they are a part of you and are probably hurt or confused or scared.

I may have misunderstood what you meant, sorry. It's obviously fine to be of faith and if sharing that with your alters is a helpful or positive experience, then that's a good thing. Praying or reading passages to help calm you down is also a good thing. But I don't think pushing your alters away will help.

I hope things get better for you.
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Re: New alters trying to form

Postby TheGangsAllHere » Wed Jul 04, 2018 10:59 pm

Nowiamone wrote:It is overwhelming when the voices talk. Next time I will listen to what they have to say but usually they just ask questions. The favorite is How kids do you have?


Perhaps they are trying to ask simple questions to be non-threatening and not overwhelm you too much. Kind of like making small talk and asking questions they already know the answers to so they don't scare you into trying to pray them away. You are all part of the same system, so if there is a part in your system that hates God, then you will both have to find a way to sort that out. Same with the part that doesn't like your boyfriend.

But communication and respect have to come before you can start to have cooperation and compromise. I'm still very early in my journey--I've only known about the parts for a little over a year, but I have more communication now and we're starting to talk about some more difficult areas of disagreement. The key is to go slow and take a break if you feel overwhelmed.
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Re: New alters trying to form

Postby NyxX » Thu Jul 05, 2018 12:02 am

Nowiamone wrote:The two experiences I mentioned above are the only times I entertained the questioning. The first alter Olivia binge ate and the other seem to me evil and hated God. Neither one shared any memories or seem to know me. So I prayed both away. It is overwhelming when the voices talk. Next time I will listen to what they have to say but usually they just ask questions.


I start from a place that says there is a reason for why this behavior I don't like exists what is it? Now they don't always tell me when I ask but will tell me when I'm right when I guess.

So binge eating can be for comfort, to punish you, because they are scared about food security (so someone might not feed them or might take the food away.) I'm sure there are many many more possible reasons but you can't help them if you don't know why they are doing it.

Hating god maybe they resent god for not helping. Many abused children will resent adults that didn't protect them so why not resent god as well? People lose faith and blame god sometimes when bad things happen. Maybe they hold a traumatic memory that is somehow associated with god.

Pushing them away because you don't like them will only hurt them and as they are a part of you that hurts you as well. You have described some of the impact that has when you described pushing them away causing headaches. But the effect goes much deeper then what we can see often and it can take years to learn about and heal from.
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Re: New alters trying to form

Postby NyxX » Thu Jul 05, 2018 12:34 am

I wanted to add more maybe other parts have view and behaviours you don't like so you don't have to. Like some parts can be trauma holder and hold bad memories some parts can hold contradictory behavior and views or undesirable behavior and views.

So for example you obviously draw strength from your religious beliefs so maybe the part that hates god hates him so that you don't have to and your religion can keep being a source of strength.
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