Physical disease made worse by persecuting introject? TW

Hi all,

I'm just wondering what you experience as been in this area.

I have an immune disorder that affects my lungs. Since a persecuting father introject has surfaced and there was some internal violence towards me, I have been feeling worse physically from my disorder. Can an alter make a physical disease worse? Or maybe it's just from the stress of it?

It's very frustrating.

What has been your experience?

Thanks,
Berta

I don't know if this answers the question exactly but it came to mind . I had inflammation in my hands to the extent the physician thought I had rheumatoid arthritis. I was really upset and I asked inside ( and wasn't even sure at the time about " inside ") to please please not make us have this disease . That perhaps I wasn't paying enough attention or was denying their existence / and this was the response but to give me a chance to fix it.
I didn't have continued episodes after that. . But maybe just coincidence.
Another situation similar as well happened -symptoms came on and I asked for whoever was upset to please not do this to me . Sounds weird but that stopped also .
I sensed both episodes related to my inside people but there wasn't a clear cut reason why I thought there was relationship , just a feeling .
Regarding orher health issues I have not sensed it having connection to anyone inside/just those 2.But it was striking .

Thank-you Lady Slippers. I appreciate you sharing your experiences.

This post was awhile back, but I'm still dealing with it. I do have two alters that are very aggressive against sharing secrets and wanting to hurt me, etc.

Still wondering how much physical disease could be related to inside.

Thanks again,
Berta

I’m surprised more people haven’t responded. I think it makes perfect sense.

It can be difficult and exhausting dealing with illness. Maybe reaching out and connecting to those inside could help lessen the impact ? Perhaps easier said than done .
Sending healing thoughts your way.
Beth

We have maybe a slightly different issue with alters and illness. If we "need" to be sick for some reason, real physical symptoms appropriate to that condition show up in the body. The response is much milder and of shorter duration than it used to be but it's still here. Even if the symptoms are manufactured, they feel real to us hosts.

The whole topic is extremely embarrassing because some of our most humiliating memories (still) involve this phenomenon playing out. Come to think of it, it seems an unavoidable conclusion that an alter, known or unknown, is behind this.

I can see how this would have been important in our childhood. Our DID mother would be our reliably sweet, nurturing mother (an alter) for long stretches only when we became ill or were seriously injured -- even though some alters tortured or tried to kill us, go figure. Remembering this detail before I realized that either of us had DID, I often wondered why I didn't turn into a total hypochondriac, since I sort of felt "rewarded" for getting sick.

We strongly suspect a different relative of having Munchausen syndrome by proxy.

oh gosh Johnny-Jack. I am sorry that is your experience. I can imagine though. I really hate these kind of women.

i totally believe this happens and these types of things are sources of not only disease but chronic pain. I think there is some interesting stuff out there to read - when the body says no, or mindfulness stuff (which I have a hard time getting through depending on the perspective of the author - i think you need one that understands trauma).

there was another set of interesting books that i cannot remember right now - the brain that changes everything or something like that about the influence of the brain on chronic pain and how you can rewire the mind and body connection. Everyone is sleeping here so I cannot rummage through the book shelf.

i have only stayed in a hospital as an adult for illnesses involving surgery or radiation. But I do know that when i get there, there are parts that are super relieved and feel really safe. Like oddly so. I also know that I stayed in the hospital once as a child when I was very little (No surgery for this one). Some think it was an accident where our mom tried to kill us. The need to have caregiving, by trained medical professionals, or by a sick mom, is real. and the body can help us get that.

sometimes I wonder if my chronic body pain is related to the need to be touched in a non-sexual way. If my muscles are in knots all of the time, I have to seek out a professional who will take them out. but give me the human touch in a safe and secure way. I don't know if this is true but sometimes i wonder. or it may be more simply that I am storing emotional stress in my muscles. either way.

TW
Thanks Beth for your reply. We have been in dialogue with the alters, trying to acknowledge and learn about them. Right now, nothing has seemed to change things. At first it was a father introject who is still threatening. Now there is also a "witch" who says she owns the body and I/we will pay.

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Hi Johnny-Jack,

That sounds like a difficult experience. I don't remember being sick as a child. I had the normal things like chicken pox and mumps. But, generally I was pretty healthy.

Thanks,
Berta

sometimes I wonder if my chronic body pain is related to the need to be touched in a non-sexual way. If my muscles are in knots all of the time, I have to seek out a professional who will take them out. but give me the human touch in a safe and secure way. I don't know if this is true but sometimes i wonder. or it may be more simply that I am storing emotional stress in my muscles. either way.

Hi Samsland,
I can identify with this as well, especially related to chronic pain. I have gentle massages sometimes and it seems to help this. Would do it more often if financially feasible. My SO does do some gentle massage and non-sexual touch.

My symptoms right now are shortness of breath and chest pressure. I'm having a test tomorrow to see if there is a physical basis, but even so that doesn't mean an alter is not influencing what's going on.

I know we need to come to some resolution with the two aggressive alters. How to do that is the question. Life is pretty tough right now.

Thanks,
Berta

Good luck with tests.... chest pressure and shortness of breathe sound scary regardless of origin.
Sending you healing energy
Beth

Thanks Beth, I can use all the healing energy that comes my way.

Warmly,
Berta