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About me, maybe some questions *Trigger*

Postby RobertsKitty » Thu Feb 06, 2014 12:59 pm

My name is Kitty and for as long as I can remember back I have had DID. I am currently 23. In this last year I got married and bought a house and I couldn't be happier. I have not been officially diagnosed nor do I have a therapist or anyone to really chat with about my DID but honestly the others like it that way. I don't really know if I'm the host, I don't know if anyone really is but I guess a the full story would be best.

*Trigger warning - vague recollection of abuse*
As a child I was always a tomboy. I always played with the boys and wanted to be a boy, in spite of being very much a female child. My home life was perfect. I was adopted when I was 2 days old by a very loving couple who I have had the privilege to call my parents for all of my 23 years. My friend situation was slightly different. My friends were very rough with me, but honestly we were children, rough play is expected. It wasn't until one of them broke my ribs and made me promise not to tell that I ever really thought about it as more than child's play (though at the time I did not). These were my friends and the only friends I could have because I was 'odd' so I never really considered they were treating me badly. When I was 12, my cousin attempted to rape me. No one knew, I never told my parents, friends, anyone. Not for years. I think that event is what caused Sky and Kelsea. That is to say Kelsea always existed, she was me as a child, but at that time Sky came into being too. And as Sky I lived for many many years. I suppose my story is different it some ways, I have never experienced a lack of co-consciousness. I have always been aware of every other alter and their goings on when they are in control. Is that considered good or bad? After that event Sky took over for many years. He became my complete protector, suffering the increasingly more violent abuse of my friends over the years and guarding me from it. Then, at home, Kelsea would take back over and be happy and safe without having experienced the emotional pain Sky took.
*Trigger warning end*

From day one it was always very important to Sky that no one told about us, that we were different. Different got hit harder. Because of this no one, even now, knows about my DID except for two very close friends. He is very angry that I am posting and has elected completely not to talk and is sulking.

Around the same time as my cousin, when puberty hit, my empath abilities kicked in (for those who don't know here is the definition: a person with the paranormal ability to apprehend the mental or emotional state of another individual.) The plain english version is that I suddenly and explosively got the ability to feel the emotions of everyone around me. Generally new empaths learn to shield their minds from the emotions of the world around them so they don't go nuts. Imagine going to the mall and collectively knowing the emotions of every single person there all at once, it can get intense. Sky took over learning how to block my mind from the craziness of hearing everyone but he only ever managed an 'on' 'off' switch type coping mechanism. Basically unless I am having a crappy day where I can't handle it, its always on. Even now Kelsea and I have no form of turning off hearing things. Sky is in control of that. At the same time he also worked out how to simply 'turn off' other emotions. On days when things get bad he will just 'turn off' my ability to feel that I'm sad or upset. He controls this and never prevents me from feeling anything unnecessarily but frequently uses it as a protection and coping method.

So fast forward to 8 years ago, the abuse had ended with the starting of highschool and Kelsea was firmly in control with Sky running all the background operations (And everyone was happy without you, says Kelsea). Kelsea met Robert, her husband to be. I cannot mark when exactly I came to exist just that I did. Kelsea's personality clashed with Roberts. She is a very dominate feminist and Robert is very stubborn and dominate as well. One day I woke up and I was me. I don't really know how it happened or what caused it but it did. I never told Robert about us nor did he really notice anything other than this personality is very submissive, wants to love and take care of instead of order around. It has been 8 years now and I have rarely not been in control. Robert resented me at times because, while I came as the correct age of my body and knowing everything from the other two, I still didn't know how to be yet. He would yell sometimes that he wanted a girlfriend not a child he had to raise and I would sit and listen till I overloaded then Sky would take over. I didn't come knowing how to control anger so I took it out like Sky showed me by hitting people and that always made Robert very mad. I didn't know how to talk about my feelings or express my emotions because no one ever really taught me. I graduated highschool and started college. I started out in film but because I have A.D.D and film is a lot of waiting I switched to child development. Through teaching children how to express their emotions I learned how to better talk about and express mine.

A few years ago, at the start of college, I met two very close friends of mine. They have proven to be the most nonjudgmental people I know. They have been largely supportive of my empathic skills as well as when I talked to them about my DID.

It is very strange to talk about us in this way. Sky is very angry with me for even mentioning us. He is tucked in the back of my mind giving off waves of anger. Is it normal that I can see him? I can't see Kelsea, but I can see Sky. Things are not always easy being completely co-conscious but I assume its a good thing. Everyone has opinions on so many things and I have to hear them all. At this point and time I feel like I'm as comfortably adjusted as possible though there are fights a lot. Kelsea is very dominate and a feminist and I'm in a submissive relationship. She yells at me a lot till Sky steps in and makes her stop. I have to be careful to keep Kelsea from coming out. Last year I lost two grandparents in as many months and she was out for almost 6 months while I grieved and almost ruined my relationship constantly fighting with Robert. She gets in trouble a lot because when she can't handle people being frustrating she comes out screaming and Robert doesn't like that. I don't scream when I'm angry I get quieter and he prefers that to yelling and being so loudly upset. In a lot of ways, Robert kind of created me to be how he wants and it makes me happy to be that for him.

I know many people who have DID they talk about their personalities are so different and they behave differently. Is that normal? Is there a normal with DID? :roll: Whenever they come out there are subtle differences. Kelsea and Robert don't get along because she wont follow orders. Sky has some kind of PTSD from my childhood and is generally sure the world is out to kill him. He doesn't trust anyone and is quieter but he is always kind of there. Even when I'm me, I rake my fingers through my hair like he does when hes frustrated or rub chin stubble that isn't there and I have never learned how to sit 'like a lady'. And even when I'm me, I have feminist emotional responses to things even though I personally don't feel that way. Honestly everyone works for the good of keeping it all a secret because the general acceptance is the world wouldn't understand. That being said I'm telling people slowly. I plan on sending the link out to this post when it becomes active as a way to tell without telling. Its hard, I can't tell my parents, they still don't know about my cousin and honestly I'd like to keep it that way. It's been more than a decade and I don't feel that there is a reason to tell anyone now and break up the family.

So that is me. Sorry that it is long. I didn't really ask questions I guess but I wanted to have the chance to write it all out.
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Re: About me, maybe some questions *Trigger*

Postby riverside » Sat Feb 08, 2014 7:16 am

hi there and hello and wello :) even to those who are sulking and who are pretending not to be listening :)

I am so glad that you have been able to finnally tell you story out loud, knowing myself how it was to tell my own story , it must have been a huge weight with a that twist of anxieity on the side (or somethign like that!!)

We are very glad for you all that you have found some one to love and be loved by. May we ask if even your partner knows about your did and your past?

You wrote

I know many people who have DID they talk about their personalities are so different and they behave differently. Is that normal? Is there a normal with DID? :roll: Whenever they come out there are subtle differences. So that is me. Sorry that it is long. I didn't really ask questions I guess but I wanted to have the chance to write it all out.


I am no expert but you answered your own question there :) for my own expereinces we are all the same in meany ways and all different in lots of others but all agree that we want the best for each other but just can deside what that is! lol.

Dont be sorry that it is long, it is your story and you deserve to tell it in as meny words as you need. Considering how long you have held it in for im surprised it is not longer!

I know you wrote other things about the actual things you went through and telling family, for myself and us it is all to close to our hearts to comment on, except to say. For our part, we understand where you are coming rom in terms of the burden of the secrets you carry.


We send you safe and kind thoughts

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Re: About me, maybe some questions *Trigger*

Postby Johnny-Jack » Sat Feb 08, 2014 2:56 pm

Hi, Kitty and everyone, welcome. Just a few thoughts. Sky is an integral part of your system. Looking at all of you as one single human, which you are, Sky is just as much you (the total you) as you (the host or the alter) are. So, for example, you should at least hear out and consider Sky's opinion on whether you should send a link out to this post. Sky is you and what Sky thinks and feels matters.

The feminist leanings of the others is also you. You say you are a part of your system which tends to be submissive. In someone who doesn't have DID, these opposite tendencies can be negotiated in one mind. In a DID mind this negotiation has to happen around or over the dissociative walls and is tougher but it still needs to happen to avoid frustration, sulking, arguments or worse conflicts.

If you're not positive when you yourself arrived, is it possible that you came as a new alter whose personality allowed the relationship to grow? I've read some biographies of women with DID who developed a new alter around the time of a marriage. I realize this may sound sexist or something but it's what I've read.

It's pretty regular for the host of a DID system to recall their childhood as perfect or at least lacking anything really abusive. At some point you may want to ask the others if that's how they recall everything. I think that a child raised by consistently supportive, healthy parents would naturally communicate abuse by other children or an attempted rape by a cousin and that child would expect and receive unconditional love and healing from those parents. Just my observations from your post.
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Re: About me, maybe some questions *Trigger*

Postby RobertsKitty » Sat Feb 15, 2014 6:50 am

Wow sorry everyone! Life got a bit crazy and I forgot to check on this. Here are my replies really quick.

riverside wrote:I am so glad that you have been able to finnally tell you story out loud, knowing myself how it was to tell my own story , it must have been a huge weight with a that twist of anxieity on the side (or somethign like that!!)

Thanks so much! It is nice to have it finally out a bit.

We are very glad for you all that you have found some one to love and be loved by. May we ask if even your partner knows about your did and your past?

My husband knows everything about my past minus the DID. Years ago I researched a bit into MPS (before the name change) and what I read in my brief search didn't mention co-conciousness so I decided I must have something else but didn't look farther into it than that. It wasn't until talking to my friend and realizing that co-conciousness was a thing that I went relooking again and found this out. I think in time I will tell my husband but honestly right now I don't see a point. Things are completely managed and flowing properly and he would most likely highly recommend me going to a therapist which is something I don't feel the want or need to do.

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Johnny-Jack wrote:Hi, Kitty and everyone, welcome. Just a few thoughts. Sky is an integral part of your system. Looking at all of you as one single human, which you are, Sky is just as much you (the total you) as you (the host or the alter) are. So, for example, you should at least hear out and consider Sky's opinion on whether you should send a link out to this post. Sky is you and what Sky thinks and feels matters.

Trust me I did hear out Sky. Because of all the pain and abuse he went through when I was young he suffers from pretty extreme fears and phobias. He is firmly convinced the world and everyone in it is out to assault, kidnap, rape, or murder me.

The feminist leanings of the others is also you. You say you are a part of your system which tends to be submissive. In someone who doesn't have DID, these opposite tendencies can be negotiated in one mind. In a DID mind this negotiation has to happen around or over the dissociative walls and is tougher but it still needs to happen to avoid frustration, sulking, arguments or worse conflicts.

Sadly negotiation isn't really a thing. Kelsea gets mad and screams at me till I cry and Sky makes her stop. There are some neutral grounds but they are few and far between.

If you're not positive when you yourself arrived, is it possible that you came as a new alter whose personality allowed the relationship to grow? I've read some biographies of women with DID who developed a new alter around the time of a marriage. I realize this may sound sexist or something but it's what I've read.

I don't doubt that I somehow managed to recognize my husband as the man I planned to marry and since a good fit wasn't available I came about. I do not claim to know how it worked or why but if I hadn't been then my husband would have only managed to deal with me for a few months before we broke up.

It's pretty regular for the host of a DID system to recall their childhood as perfect or at least lacking anything really abusive. At some point you may want to ask the others if that's how they recall everything. I think that a child raised by consistently supportive, healthy parents would naturally communicate abuse by other children or an attempted rape by a cousin and that child would expect and receive unconditional love and healing from those parents.

I tried to write as comprehensively as I could about everyone's feelings about my childhood. I genuinely didn't care that I was being hurt by my friends at the time. I had experienced school without friends and the hurt of being picked on and alone and at the time it seemed but a small price to pay to not be alone anymore. Even if they hurt me, when the bullies and cheerleaders came around we would stand as a unit and they would go away. As for my cousin, at the time it happened I really didn't know or understand what to do. I felt in part responsible for 'letting' it happen and I didn't really WANT to talk about it. I didn't experience shame or depression as a result. I just avoided him the rest of the time we were at my grandparents and took measures to never be alone with him. He avoided me too, I'm sure he was afraid I would tell or had already told. To this day we don't really talk when we have family get togethers.
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Re: About me, maybe some questions *Trigger*

Postby Angel of Darkness » Sat Feb 15, 2014 6:56 pm

Hey! Welcome and I'm glad you finally got to post your story.

I'm also an empath and trust me I know how horrible it is. It's enough to drive me insane some days. That's why I tend to stay inside and away from people. Less emotions.

I'm also always co-conscious. We are all always awake and watching when the others have control unless who's ever in control purposely blocks us and makes us black out.

Anyways... If you need a friend or someone to talk to or whatever just message me and one of us can help you out or just be friends with you or whatever :)
*Not diagnosed because I don't care enough to see anyone*

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Re: About me, maybe some questions *Trigger*

Postby JuusanHime » Thu Apr 10, 2014 12:07 am

I am Hakuryu [psychopath alter]. Feels so good to can openly say : I AM PSYCHOPATH. I was pretty pissed at first with JuusanHimes (main host) idea to start posting in forums again (we got banned from psychopath free because technically we arent psychopath-free and i may have said a thing or 2) but things may not be so bad here. To the point: Your friends seem real pieces or work. Break ribs as childsplay? Who told you that? Thats abuse! Even if your parents dont abuse you, school abuse is also..abuse. I dont believe your parents are this awsome.*trigger warning* You seem a priviledged citizen in the state of denial. School abuse gives signs to the childs behavior. Also rape attempts! Educate yourself about traumatic events, you mentioned 2 sooooo casually! Since you are the super-empath *trigger warning* (which i find pretty repulsive and arrogant but anyway) you sence when something is wrong in other people. How come your super parents didnt feel what you were going through? how come they didnt protect you? I am a real family for Juusanhime. Your alters can help you much more than you think IF you want. Stop clinging in denial about perfect childhood and start asking the alters. Juusanhime and i are in good terms now but a few years ago she was pretty stubborn too and had to turn to me because she started having worst PTSD than Vietnam veterans. And i dont think there is a ''normal'' by the book DID case. Havent you spent enough time listening to #####& telling you how you should be/live/feel?
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