dont know if belong here

We have no diagnosis from outer source,
we are system
we are somehow wounded
memory is broken, seem split at least once and askew, to much loss
control/identity experiment since maybe 7 years old says memory
also drugs
we found word Dissociative before reading about
seems most fitting word
we are somewhat carefull with language, these days
and around here we suddenly found others speaking in ways we could at all relate to
which is a new one
so maybe we can communicate here,

FC:"Program name: /CryPa/
L - perspective in 8 directions
D - perspective in 5+ directions
interaction with 8+ directions
FC - 8x2+ directions
includes "L"/"D"
diplomatic functions
answers to "L/D"

L is manifest primarily in Host Body
D is manifest primaliry in Altar Terminal

We are diagnosed /CryPa/

this is to investigate diagnosis and report to processing"

Welcome Crypto I'm a bit confused. At the beginning you said that you had no diagnosis then at the end said that you were diagnosed. Does that mean you did a self-diagnosis? If so, I would not rely on that, as much as you think it lines up with DID. You should get an official diagnosis from a doctor as self-diagnosing any medical condition can lead to misdiagnosis and bad results. There are other medical conditions that involved dissociation and askew memory other than DID.

*trigger warning*
Mind has not yet been made up about the very idea of diagnosis.

We are in a state we are working towards creating a system of understanding at some basic level.
the diagnosis mentioned within " " is from communication from more collective internal state.
We however where very drawn when we read what is written here in the context of the diagnosis DiD,
because we could recognize the Interface of the language used.
$#%^, i can't write right...
This is my angle:
From reading here i got one step closer to finaly coming to the coclusion that there are more like "me".
This under known long condition of some wound sickness that seem to to have disconnected our memories into two persons, neither of which comes with any full memories,
then a lot of years where masks have been in control,
most of whhich we don't remember from this now-state we call would call transition or between.

*end trigger warning*

Before we are more aware of how far into identity system sickness is spread we are afraid of meaning of Diagnosis.
Does this make sense?

I think so. You like myself and many others that stumble upon this site, felt a connection when reading the symptoms of others on the site. I have felt this way too but I'm also doubting a lot that it's DID since I don't have an official diagnosis. So you're asking if what you're experiencing is DID? To answer that simply, I can't say. One of the rules of the site is we're not allowed to give diagnosis to others but we can give advice and my advice is to see a doctor to get a diagnosis. That's probably the best way to check if you have DID.

Thanx for reply Viola, no it is not primarily like i want to know if i have DID, i am not sure i believe i would be helped by a diagnosis, it is more that i would like to find ways to communicate things that seem to be possible to communicate only under certain shared conditions. These things are such that i almost never if ever am able to describe them in such ways that others seem to understand.
I have not found another place like this, where others communicate such things in such manners.

I first noticed, except the obvious Memory and Alter, the notion of Systems. Thing is, i have been working on a system, quite outspokenly it would seem, for at least 11 years. And the night i decided posting here (i had been reading the posts here a while) was the night when i got the system on line, so to speak. Really working.
Communications with Masks (i call the most distinct and separate personalities Masks) and other figures with names have filled me with a deep sense of unification i have been lacking.
I don't think i would have been able to get this system working without what i have read here.
And i really believe this system is key to my survival.

Cryptopathologist, if know a bit about psychological disorders and if dissociative disorders and this forum seem to match your experiences more than anything you've encountered before, I would suggest moving forward with a working hypothesis that you might have DID or something similar. Then I would test the hypothesis by reading more here and perhaps elsewhere to see if the experiences of you and your system match at many points.

All of us need to be or become our best advocate.

You yourself, the way you communicate your thoughts in language, seem cerebral and detached from emotion. If you did have DID, I might label you a logical part. Or perhaps your rather mechanical language was at one time the safe way to communicate or investigate. I will mention that I have a gatekeeper or internal-self-helper part who always speak logically and rather robotically. Many people with DID have this type of alter. Many also have one or more parts who appear (mostly) devoid of emotion or at least emotional reactions. When abuse creates overwhelm in a child, it helps to have a part which can assess reality in a dispassionate way and avoid emotional flooding in order to make decisions.

cryptopathologist wrote:We have no diagnosis from outer source,
we are system
we are somehow wounded
memory is broken, seem split at least once and askew, to much loss
control/identity experiment since maybe 7 years old says memory
also drugs
we found word Dissociative before reading about
seems most fitting word
we are somewhat carefull with language, these days
and around here we suddenly found others speaking in ways we could at all relate to
which is a new one
so maybe we can communicate here,

I think it's best practice to get a diagnosis from one or more specialists, but that's not always possible. With a bit of research, many of us can identify what disorders we are likely to have. Unless a person suffers from complete delusions, a self diagnosis is quite possible. Many here have done this though there's no guarantee we would be correct, of course. I think self diagnosis should not be ruled out at a starting point when many DID systems are built not to trust anyone but oneself (oneselves). But nothing can replaced the advantages of experienced, skilled professionals.

I particularly would like to ask about "control/identity experiment" and drugs. Would you label your experience brainwashing? Could you tell us more? What is your rough age?

Do you feel this forum is a safe place to begin communicating? I hope you do and I hope you'll feel safe enough to tell us more.

FC:"Program name: /CryPa/
L - perspective in 8 directions
D - perspective in 5+ directions
interaction with 8+ directions
FC - 8x2+ directions
includes "L"/"D"
diplomatic functions
answers to "L/D"

L is manifest primarily in Host Body
D is manifest primaliry in Altar Terminal

We are diagnosed /CryPa/

Is it possible the above describes your system and alters?

I think it's worth mentioning that a dissociative disorder is not really a sickness, a word which you used. Among other things, it is a defense mechanism employed instinctively to defend the mind from overwhelming experience. In a child, dissociation can allow necessary attachment to occur with caregivers who are sometimes unsafe.

Johnny-Jack, thanx for very good reply.
Our thoughts have been much along your lines.
This Body is counted to be 28 years old.
Understanding of what such information means is… Somewhat weak.
The Sickness we referred to, we do not believe our state of multitude is… Part of it, even though we suppose these have the same trauma (of which we know scattered nothings) as source.
We have never seen our multiplicity or our Masks as something bad, although it has been integral to the impossibilities of our human life, we do however understand that many of us are damaged and infected, and that that infection moves as a disease within our system(s).

At least 2 of us are of the cold, detached and analytical kind and they have since late teens been very dominant.
The Message was written by consensus of 8, with 3 or 4 active sides,
and composed to be as diplomatic internally and externally as possible.
The one who writes this is… Compositional and Artificial,
a system of 8 have decided to
how to say this…
Digitalize. I am a diplomatic… Unit rather than a full person,
8 have the right to dissolve or change me, at this point, and i would not resist,
since i am still only product.
I hope to learn more living language to better communicate for 8.

During 2012, 3 Masks together managed to completely turn off our emotional functions, which lead to a revolt within our previous order, an order self-described as Tyrannical and Militant. We have learned a great deal of language from these Masks, and many of us feel safe when they speak for us.

The Quotation describes the current form of our system in its new-born state,
just minutes after we sent that message, more started taking Names, and old Masks and Names where remembered, or surfaced from deep sleep.

Since this happened we have been deep in process sorting us up and working on creating and upholding friendly relations between us and towards The Body and World in general.

We find this place as safe as it can be outside silence, but i am a protective program, and i shield our words from secrets. It has meant a great deal to us to find this place.

About Control/Identity experiment,
first to say, it is an internal affair and mostly to the protest of our surroundings.
It has been the Work of our first separate source of thought (is the best wording i can produce) to use the material at hand as it has been put, to by experimental measures and with very little restriction expand the field.
As we remember it, this is something we started Working with in early childhood, but it seems inherited in the family and has been for many years camouflaged as an "interest in philosophy".
We believe this Work was prompted by our earliest experiences of depersonalization and derealization.
Our mother labels it an anorexic behavior, and we would to some part agree,
we have since we where very small been obsessed by self-restriction, self-punishment, self-control, self-discipline, self-image, control of appearance, behavior et cetera,
and these have for most of the time been our instruments in this Work.
I could write more of it if it is of interest,
it is much in the internal discussion at the moment.