new alter, not being acknowledged. BAH!

wronglesson wrote:Alters are real, look at me. DID is not real. It is the mental health's way of explaining something else that is very, very real! You're in no condition, dear, to hear the truth.

(To Wronglesson/Jo, no offense, Miranda):

This, I've heard of before, and the twins, L.C. and Luna, have played around with other "possibilities" before (usually while "tripping" on LSD). The twins are well aware that DID is real and that it's the explanation for everything, but they still find it fun/interesting to explore other ideas. I thought it might be interesting to you if I shared some of them with you, Wronglesson/Jo.

Here's the ideas they've had before, some are similar to the things shared in the "Oddball theories" thread. **Possible Trigger Warning, mentions of religion and aliens**
(Please keep in mind that we do not believe any of these ideas, the twins just find them interesting to think on, but we all know that DID is the true explanation and the only one that does explain everything).

-- Alters are spirits or demons (depending on the alter), except they are not exactly possessing a person. They're the person's own spirits/demons, representing what's inside the person, if that makes sense. (I don't really know how else to put it).

-- For those that aren't familiar with Buddhism, "The Egg" theory, and reincarnation, basically what these ideas say is that the world is like an egg, and people are growing and developing as a whole to eventually become like God. (Since God made this world for us to live/grow and all that stuff). It also says that everyone is the same person, just at different times/timelines (kinda like how with time machines you can go back and have the possibility of running into yourself, except with this, "ourselves" are everyone else that we see around us). When you die, you become reincarnated into another person, and that person might remember the things you've learned and it may help them, or they may not remember the things you've learned (so basically like a past life type of thing). Once you've lived out all the lives of everyone in the world, you will live out life as either Buddha or the Dahli Llama or both (can't remember which, and I know one's before the other as far as order goes, but can't remember that either). Then, that's considered the "last life" to live, and after that we/the world will "hatch" and we will have finished our development into a being more similar to God.

With DID, it can be thought that we are the people that remember our past lives, are aware of those that have reincarnated into us (our alters), and can remember (over time) things we've learned/experienced in our "past lives".

-- Alters are either angels or demons, depending on the alter, either trying to help lead you down God's path or trying to distract you from God's path and lead you closer to the devil.

-- Alters are the "white man's" version of spirit guides/animals (no offense meant!). (L.C. and Luna can be rather "big" on our Native American heritage).

-- Alters are aliens or spirits of aliens that are attempting to enlighten and teach those that seem to have an "open mind"/that show intelligence compared to others/other "choices".

-- Alters are from other dimensions, and for some reason, our dimensions clashed and they've become mostly "stuck" with us, or their abilities to travel between dimensions is limited (hence why they're with us), or they'd rather stay here.


Hope that helps give you an ideas of other "ideas". (Stay strong with what you know, though. DID is the only one that explains not only the alters, but the symptoms, the developments, the experiences, etc. DID explains the hows/whys/whats/wheres/whens, and it fits with what we know about brain development, human development, personality development, etc. These "theories" don't explain everything nearly as well and they don't fit with actual scientific facts that we know to be true).


~The Hawk

wronglesson wrote: And if that doesn't have enough color range I should have a bigger set at my parents' house.

Hey homegirl, this will do! We need the variety, so thank you.

u.n.t.i.l. t.h.e.n. w.e. w.i.l.l. c.o.n.v.e.r.s.e. o.n. h.e.r.e.

wronglesson wrote:lifelongthing (umm, I want to say by your color eliesa?) makes a good point.

I do have a pack of markers (once a ten pack, lost a couple) that I'm letting Jessica use. And if that doesn't have enough color range I should have a bigger set at my parents' house. For a last ditch effort, I could let you guys use my colored pencils set once I get a sharpener, but that's only if I have to. They cost 75 dollars.

Would any of those options work?

Another option would be to buy a cheap set of different colored pens, such as gel pens (since they have a wide range of colors), or something like that.

Or, until you get pens, or if they like the computer better, you could consider setting up a journal on your computer. You could save it to a USB or a CD or something to help keep it private, so that you can remove it whenever you're done, or you could could explore private blog options, or you could perhaps set up a new log-in for your computer that only you and your alters know the password to and have journal documents on there or something.

Another option would be to see if you're able to send messages on this site to yourself. That way there's still the same color options, it's private because it's on your account, and it's more private because it's a message, not a thread or a blog on here.


Hope those ideas are helpful.


~The Hawk

Yes this is and was Eliesa. I am happier I could help.

tomboy24 wrote:-- Alters are aliens or spirits of aliens that are attempting to enlighten and teach those that seem to have an "open mind"/that show intelligence compared to others/other "choices".

Oh man that one would freak me out, I have an alien phobia, I swear they're real.

Those ideas are really fascinating. It makes me wonder what Miranda believes.

tomboy24 wrote:Another option would be to see if you're able to send messages on this site to yourself. That way there's still the same color options, it's private because it's on your account, and it's more private because it's a message, not a thread or a blog on here.

I'll definitely have to check it out. I'm kinda neurotic about having everything in it's place, which is why I'm focusing on using my journal. Not having things in place kinda puts me in panic mode.

lifelongthing wrote:Yes this is and was Eliesa. I am happier I could help.

You did help.

I'm hesitant, but Miranda? You can use my colored pencils. You can use anything in the house that fits your needs, within reason. I know you can talk to me in my head, so just ask first. If you use the colored pencils (which definitely has enough color selection), be careful they're professional grade.

wronglesson wrote:

tomboy24 wrote:-- Alters are aliens or spirits of aliens that are attempting to enlighten and teach those that seem to have an "open mind"/that show intelligence compared to others/other "choices".

Oh man that one would freak me out, I have an alien phobia, I swear they're real.

We believe aliens are real, too. But we don't have a phobia of them. But I can understand how it can be unnerving to think about. But then, like Hawk says, we know the explanation's DID, we just like to think about other "ideas" just for fun/interest.

wronglesson wrote:I'll definitely have to check it out. I'm kinda neurotic about having everything in it's place, which is why I'm focusing on using my journal. Not having things in place kinda puts me in panic mode.

That type of stuff puts Shay in panic mode, too. If the message thing works, at least that'll help keep it to either this site or your journal, so that's nice organization. (Shay just tried the messaging-yourself thing for you, actually. It does work. We just sent a message to ourselves).

wronglesson wrote:I'm hesitant, but Miranda? You can use my colored pencils. You can use anything in the house that fits your needs, within reason. I know you can talk to me in my head, so just ask first. If you use the colored pencils (which definitely has enough color selection), be careful they're professional grade.

That's really nice of you. I don't know if I could share my pro-grade pens, and I know L.C. probably couldn't share her pro-grade colored pencils. For me, it's OCD and paranoia that someone will mess them up or break them or something. For L.C., it's mainly the fact that they're pro-grade, so she sees it as "use only for these things, nothing else", you know? But it's cool that you're able to offer to share them. That takes a lot (at least to me it does).


~Luna

tomboy24 wrote:Shay just tried the messaging-yourself thing for you, actually. It does work. We just sent a message to ourselves).

Awesome! Thank you Shay!

tomboy24 wrote:That's really nice of you. I don't know if I could share my pro-grade pens, and I know L.C. probably couldn't share her pro-grade colored pencils. For me, it's OCD and paranoia that someone will mess them up or break them or something. For L.C., it's mainly the fact that they're pro-grade, so she sees it as "use only for these things, nothing else", you know? But it's cool that you're able to offer to share them. That takes a lot (at least to me it does).

I haven't used them since my brief stint in art school a few years ago, so I figure, hey! Might as well put what my grandma bought me to some use.