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Postby drifting » Tue Mar 13, 2007 4:41 pm

I think I know how you feel, I've given myself a couple of years to see if my life can improve. Suicide is, as you probably know, not a solution, but the absolute end.

When you say treatment fails because you are 'extremely treatment-resistent', wouldn't brutal logic suggest this resistence be the first obstacle to tackle?
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Postby ScarTissue » Tue Mar 13, 2007 5:35 pm

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Postby ScarTissue » Tue Mar 13, 2007 5:49 pm

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Postby trents » Tue Mar 13, 2007 6:47 pm

ScarTissue wrote:Do none of you see self-extermination as a viable option ? Why do you find it irrational ?

If your beloved pet was suffering from a disease and in intense physical pain with no chance for a cure, wouldn't you show mercy and put it down ? Why not do the same for someone in intense mental pain ? I apparently cannot be cured of this crap. Is it simply that emotional pain isn't considered to be worthy of such drastic measure, as if emotional pain isn't...real ?

Surely I am not the only visitor of this forum who is stuck in this quagmire ? Am I that alone in my opinion ?


I can understand why you would feel this way. But I also hope that your new therapists *will* be able to help you this time.
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Postby Iron Angel » Wed Mar 14, 2007 12:52 am

Although never diagnosed, I'm pretty sure I've had chronic depression for most of my life, and sometimes I go into episdoes were I can't think about anything but commiting suicide. I know how the brutal logic goes. I'm only 20 though, I supposedly still do have a life and a future possibility infront of me if I can change things so I can not relate there.

But I'm going to be a bit more realistic. I don't like a whole lot of positive, "cheer up, suicide is not a solution, just stick through it," kind of advice. It only makes me feel worse. There comes certain times in some peoples lives were suicide does feel like the only option. Not really a solution but simply an end. Personally, I think if people want to kill themselves that's their choice and they should be allowed to do it. It's not the cowards way out. Theres nothing cowardly about it taking your own life.

But before you make up your mind, you might want to consider a few things. First of all, if you have close relations like children, a loving spouse or a really really close personal friend you might want to reconsider because suicide hurts these people the most. If that's out of the question, trying to find something to do with your time that can maybe give some sort of joy or pleasure. I like to grow plants. It's not much but sometimes it keeps me going, something to look forward to. If that is not an option, you might want to consider drugs. Personally, I like weed and smoke it too much, but I've decided that kind of life is better then just simplying absoulte nothing which is death. It helps me with depression, I don't contemplate suicide at all during the periods I smoke and it makes life generally enjoyable to some degree. Helps me relax around people as well. Of course, drugs don't work the same for everyone, and I'm sure a lot of people will like to take the moral high ground, say that drugs aren't the options and all that stuff, blah blah. I've heard it before, but some people don't understand.

If none of this helps or you've tried it all before then so be it. I don't consider it irrational but I don't encourage it. We all need to make our own decisions. I heard something along these lines somewhere and I like to see things this way...
If you've been sitting through most of a movie and its been crappy up until this point, like there is nothing good about it, then chances are it's not going to get any better in the last 15 minutes, so no one should blame you for leaving early.
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Postby ScarTissue » Wed Mar 14, 2007 7:22 am

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Postby Portilloizay » Wed Mar 14, 2007 8:19 am

Im sorry you feel that way. Since you dont want spiritual or moral help then all i can say is that you are a human experiencing reality on planet earth somewhere in the cosmos. Here is a picture of the cosmos if your interested http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/e ... x-HUDF.jpg . Anyway before you make your mistake, read a little.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophi ... of_suicide
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_methods
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epidemiolo ... of_suicide
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Postby ScarTissue » Wed Mar 14, 2007 12:57 pm

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Postby bluemoose » Fri Mar 16, 2007 10:53 am

Are you sure you don't want spirituality brought into this? I was going to raise the subject of near death experiences.

I'm not particularly a believer in an afterlife, the truth is I don't know but NDEs raise some questions that make me take it seriously as a possibility.
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Postby ScarTissue » Fri Mar 16, 2007 11:19 am

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