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Postby ScarTissue » Mon Mar 19, 2007 10:10 pm

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Postby alice4 » Mon Mar 19, 2007 11:08 pm

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Postby lonelytunes » Mon Mar 19, 2007 11:33 pm

Thank you, I appreciate your kindness.

Yes, we all die eventually.
In a way, what difference does it make whether my life ends in suicide ? Death is death. Suicide is only one of many ways in which people meet their end. My elderly father died in a motorcycle crash, while I will likely depart of my own initiative...it makes no difference, really...many ways of dying, only one kind of death.

Thanks for sharing.


I'm for euthanasia. I believe one should be allowed to decide when one should die. If i was lying in a hospital bed, and i knew death was 99% certain. I wouldn't like to lie there waiting, especially if i was in pain. I think i would rather like lying there if i was drugged up on morhpine or something :). Some drug to take away both the physical and the mental pain, and at the same time shortned my life.

I don't know if i'm for euthanasia for people that are othervise healthy. Maybe one could argue that mental pain is similar to physical pain, and if you knew you could never escape this pain, that maybe euthanasia was a reasonabel alternative.

Have you tried psychedelic drugs? Like mushrooms or LSD? If you feel you have nothing to loose, maybe you should try experimenting a bit.
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Postby ScarTissue » Tue Mar 20, 2007 1:09 am

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Postby ScarTissue » Tue Mar 20, 2007 1:14 am

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Postby lonelytunes » Tue Mar 20, 2007 1:45 am

Hi lonelytunes, I too am a supporter of euthanasia. I believe it translates from Greek as "good death"

Marijuana was the only "drug" that I really fell in love with, can't smoke it now because of my job. There is a pill called marinol that is synthetic THC and is quite legal. It would be considered "off label" to prescribe for mental disorders but a doctor could legally issue it, using his personal descretion.

I appreciate the suggestion ( psychedelics ) but I'm afraid that my
psyche is too fragile to be that stimulated. I don't want to end up as an "LSD casualty", ala, Syd Barret of Pink Floyd. I think I might
have a permenant psychotic break, if you know what I mean.


I have thought about trying psyhedelics, and i'm afraid of what could happen. My psyche isn't all that strong. I fear i maybe would have a bad trip, or get psyhologically damaged beyond the damage i allready have :). You mention Syd Barret and Pink Floyd. I don't think they are prime examples of users of psychedelic drugs. If you do something to often or to much almost anything can be harmfull. If you have the best set and setting, as they say in the psychedelic community, i think you could have a pleasant, and hopefully eye opening experience.

I have thought about trying marijuana and mushrooms. Since i'm going to die anyway, why let anything be untested? :) Maybe you should try to read some trip-rapports on erowid or something. Many people have had life changing experiences on these drugs, and LSD were used in therapy in the 70's with some success to treat alcoholics. I believe MDMA (extacy) is being tested for therapeutic potential right now. If traditional psychotherapy and medication can't help you, maybe you should be your own doctor and find out what could potentially help you. If you have big plans on ending you life anyway, why let anything that could increase your quality of life go unexamined?

I think in many cases the reason for our problems are as much to blame on chemical problems in the brain, as on childhood experiences. Often the two go hand in hand. Nature gets amplified by nurture. The original problem is the chemical unbalances we inherit from our genes, that in turn make growing up more difficult, that in turn amplifies our problems. So the solution is maybe in part chemical. Maybe the brain (our poor and suffering brain :)) benefits from begin uprooted by a psychedelic experience. It's sad that these substances are seen upon as begin recriational drugs, and not potential medicine for people that are suffering.
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Postby Portilloizay » Tue Mar 20, 2007 5:15 am

Ecstasy is the drug you need. It has been used medically for post-traumatic stress disorder. It also brings out the chemical and feeling "empathy".
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Postby stokes » Tue Mar 20, 2007 3:16 pm

ScarTissue wrote:Do none of you see self-extermination as a viable option ? Why do you find it irrational ?



The answer is no. The reason? Because suicide won't solve anything. It might put an end to your pain but you can't commit suicide without thinking about how much it will affect everyone else in your life. Everybody has somebody and those people will be broken-hearted at your loss. Are you not concerned about that?

I don't want to sound harsh. I am not for a minute insinuating that you are selfish. You are not a selfish person for wanting to put an end your agonising emotional pain. I can only imagine the despair that you are going through but there must be some hope.

You probably don't want to hear this but....I believe in God and I believe that we are all given burdens to carry. Yet we are never given anything beyond what we can bear. We are also given the power of choice so theoretically, if you choose to end your life, nothing is stopping you.

But you can't do that. Nobody wants that. Go and see your psychiatrist and try again. Reach out the God. I think that it is one of the greatest things that you can do. Just try it. I believe in the power of personal prayer. Pray in a way that you want to pray. Just be honest and humble. It helps me.

I hope that you don't commit suicide. I enjoyed your posts. I think that you are very clever, witty, kind and eccentric. Amidst the tragedy of your situation, you seem good humoured and open to others' opinions. I didn’t want to sound patronising in this post by telling you to “turn to God” and I hope that I haven’t insulted you by doing so but it does help.

Anyway, I hope that you are okay. Please don't leave.
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