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A host change? WTH?

Postby oaktree » Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:18 pm

Ok. So apparently I do switch...

But this has been a bit strange now. I started noticing it Saturday morning (so it's now roughly two days at least). I'm not in control anymore most of the time. I don't black out or anything, I'm just not in control. And, it seems, sometimes not really conscious too (I don't know yet how much time, just guessing it happens).

Dafuq?

I have to say, honestly, the new host (?) is much better at handling daily life. I'm addicted to the computer (not this forum!). But I'd like to know who it is. We're very co-conscious. I do a lot passive influence (sometimes that I'm not really aware, and often that I don't really want to do it).

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I tried to let the new host (?) write, but he (?) seemed to be quite upset/surprised (like :shock: ). And a bit sad, as he seemed unable to write anything about himself (is it forbidden?). I guess I'll just wait and see and let the dust settle down a bit and just wait what will happen. And look up a few threads about host change. As they apparently apply to myself :shock:.

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Maybe I should think of a nickname for here now.
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Re: A host change? WTH?

Postby lifelongthing » Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:25 pm

I wouldn't say it's a host change just from a couple of days. Could be someone who's just "stretching their legs". But the best of luck with this :)
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Re: A host change? WTH?

Postby oaktree » Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:28 pm

lifelongthing wrote:I wouldn't say it's a host change just from a couple of days. Could be someone who's just "stretching their legs". But the best of luck with this :)

Thank you! Yes, maybe it's not really a host change per se. I was just... very surprised :shock:.

Maybe (just a theory), someone decided he (?) didn't like what I was doing and decided to take over. But then it was a long takeover.
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Re: A host change? WTH?

Postby lifelongthing » Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:35 pm

That's natural.

Try not to assume anything. I've found that alters are less likely to share why and what they do if I assume things about them. But yeah, quite a while. We're used to it in our system but that's just us.

Glad you're making progress with recognizing everyone.
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Re: A host change? WTH?

Postby tomboy24 » Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:57 pm

In our system, we've noticed that whenever someone "new" surfaces or comes "out" for the "first" time, they'll be "out" for the most part for a good 3-5 days, either for the entire day, or for most of the day (so, someone else will wake up and get ready, then this alter will be out until bedtime, where someone else (usually Cassandra or Cassie) goes to bed). Although with new littles, the rules seem to change a bit, and there will be a 3-5 day period where it's pretty much guaranteed they'll be out at least once a day for any length of time (from minutes to hours). (We think this is because the system realizes the needs to have older alters around at some point during the day at least).

We think this happens in our system because it's like...when a kid gets a new toy. It's new, it's exciting, it might be a bit scary but the curiosity overrules, it's something to explore, there's a need to learn about this toy and know it, etc. So when someone's "out" for the "first" time, it's exactly like that. It's exciting, it might be a bit scary, they're curious, it's something to explore, it's something different, etc.
Not only that, but we've found that this is like a sort of "jump starter" for adjustment for our system. Having "new" alters out a lot for a period of time helps us to get a good grip on adjusting and adapting, so it's not as difficult when they go back to spending more time inside. (Hope that made sense).

So, this could be a host change, or this could be exactly like what Lifelongthing said and it's simply someone stretching their legs. Who knows, this could simply be a very curious alter, or an alter who simply likes to take care of things, or an alter that's been bored inside, or something like that. We wouldn't jump to host change just yet, but you could still read up on host change threads if you like. Just remember to not jump to conclusions yet. Give it some time.

(Oh, and keep in mind- a host change is usually no one's fault, and it's not because a host is a "bad host". It's for a change of needs- either the environment's changed, inside has changed, in some way, needs are changed, and it can be hard for a host to adapt and adjust to changing needs, especially quickly. This is no one's fault. But the need is still there, so a solution, such as a host change, will tend to happen. A host change can also be an attempt to help the current host and relieve them of stress or something, trying to make things easier/better for the current host. Sometimes there can be "host breaks" instead of full-on "host changes" as well).

Hope you feel better soon.


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Re: A host change? WTH?

Postby oaktree » Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:27 pm

lifelongthing wrote:That's natural.

For DID/DDNOS-1, yes. Not (yet) for me.

lifelongthing wrote:Try not to assume anything.

I was just very surprised! I'll see what happens in the coming days. I don't have much responsibilities (if any) now, so it doesn't matter much.

lifelongthing wrote:Glad you're making progress with recognizing everyone.

Unfortunately, I don't recognize them really. It was mainly, I knew I wasn't in control and I knew it was probably the same the whole time. Whoever was out probably was out previously.

Well, when I look at it now, it seems more likely it was just someone temporarily out, not a real host change. A 'host break' could also be an explanation. I needed a break from what I was doing on the computer.

I feel good now, thank you.
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Re: A host change? WTH?

Postby lifelongthing » Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:31 pm

I meant it was natural to be surprised.

Glad you're feeling better :)
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Re: A host change? WTH?

Postby oaktree » Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:35 pm

lifelongthing wrote:I meant it was natural to be surprised.

Ow, of course. Yes.
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Re: A host change? WTH?

Postby oaktree » Mon Jan 21, 2013 12:03 pm

I don't know what happens. I'm here.
~ ?

I have no idea what is going on. Apparently I'm 'typing through' - someone types for me.
~ host (?)

I'm here!
~ ?

I know who I am!
Who are you then?
I don't know.


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Explanation: there are at least three of us in here now, switching back and forth like crazy (I just had a T appointment). And most of the time it isn't really known who is out. Or at least I don't know. I'm now typing this through, someone else is out now. And I just say what to write. It seems they are completely confused, much more than I am. It seems like they don't really know what is going on and who they are either. Or at least, one of them doesn't seem to know it. Another does. Or? I don't know. It seems like they just start to realize they can do things on their own (and not just relaying my things). Apparently I have been away since Friday, but I just didn't know it back then (?). Or so someone who was out at the time wrote. I was aware of it starting Saturday.

So, well, it's quite messed up now. I'm (or we?) are just trying to relax. Just put op good music etc. that the one out at the time likes.

There is:
* Me (host)
* One little one (it seems he/she is quite young, but capable of everything needed as we're very connected).
* One older it seems. Yes. I'm typing this. Doesn't know who he/she is. I think.

Well, maybe not switching like crazy, but there were at least 6 (actually, more) at the T appointment. And he didn't always see them, or thought it was me when it wasn't.

~ host (typed through by I-don't-know)

--- Update ~18:15 GMT+1

So, finally, I'm back. I forced my way out now.

And back 'inside' (?) again. Typed by i-don't-know.

Whatever. I think they just want their time out or something.

~ Host (partially typed-through)
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Re: A host change? WTH?

Postby oaktree » Wed Jan 23, 2013 10:43 pm

Btw, thank you tomboy24 for the explanation.

*rant-ish*

Ok. I start to get sick of this. I'm not only a part of the day out. I'm always inside. Except for a few times when I'm either (safely) triggered out or put a lot effort into it (the other way round goes automatic if I don't 'keep myself out'). And it's tyring to keep being out! Even now, I'm not out. I have only control over my fingers typing this. Sometimes, I can sort-of forget I'm not in control. Or maybe I'm not really aware (which I suspect was the case before I knew about the switches).

Whoever is out doesn't really seem to grasp he's an alter. I think. He's mainly confused. And the little one - does understand even less. He/they want to get back inside. Why can't they get back?

I hope this will be all over in a few days. It's now either 5 or 6 days since I got inside (depending on whether it started Friday or Saturday, they say it's Friday, I started noticing it Saturday).

Oh and as denial is coming back now... this is proof isn't it? I think I need that confirmed.
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