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Lying is an Addiction NOT a Moral Issue

Postby Billi Caine » Sat Dec 15, 2012 9:04 am

For all those suffering from a lying problem or love someone with a lying problem, the following information may be of help to you...

I need to differentiate between “PATHOLOGICAL LYING” and “COMPULSIVE LYING”.

I define “Pathological Lying” as “the actions of someone who deliberately and intentionally lies for financial, material or some other gain with no care or consideration to how their lies will affect or harm others.”

I define “Compulsive Lying” as “the compulsive need to lie as a normal and reflexive way of responding to life.”

However, as “compulsive liars” often premeditate their lies as well as lie when driven by the compulsion to do so, I do not feel the term “compulsive liars” adequately covers the condition of lying as a reflexive way of life.

“ADDICTION” on the other hand is defined as “The fact or condition of being addicted to a particular substance, thing, or activity.”

So, “LYING ADDICTON” is therefore hereby defined, for the first time, as “The condition of being addicted to lying as a normal and reflexive way of responding to
life where the intention is not to cause harm to others.”

The “lying addict”, therefore, is not someone who, say, is cheating on a loved one and lying all the time about it (although lying addicts could do this of course – like anyone could). A lying addict is somebody who is addicted to lying in order to live.

THE SCIENCE OF LYING ADDICTION IN SIMPLE TERMS

Constance Holden, writing in 2001 in “Science” magazine - the worlds leading journal of original scientific research wrote “Scientists have traditionally confined their use of the term “addiction” to substances that clearly foster physical dependence. That's changing, however. New knowledge suggests that, as far as the brain is concerned, a reward's a reward, regardless of whether it comes from a chemical or an experience. And where there's a reward - as in gambling, eating, sex, or shopping - there's the risk of getting trapped in a compulsion.”

Lying as a behavioral addiction is “rewarding” for the lying addict (as we shall soon see) and, therefore, just like any other behavioral addiction, causes physiological changes in the brain and body just as any other drug addiction does. Today, brain scans of addicts (including behavioral addicts) reveal defects in the brain’s pleasure center that processes the “pleasure chemical” dopamine.

Whether these defects happen as a result of the addiction itself or are there at birth is irrelevant. What is important however is that the more a person feeds their addiction, the more extensive the defect in the brain’s pleasure center is over time. And in addition, over time, a person - including a lying addict - will need to do more of the drug or activity or engage in riskier and riskier behaviors to get the same “fix” or “high”.

Science also shows us that not only do certain drugs affect neurotransmitters in the brain but behaviors associated with doing that behavior do too. For example, just seeing a syringe can stimulate a rise in dopamine levels in the brain of heroin addicts because of the learned association between syringes and their drug addiction. In the same vein then, just the thought of lying in lying addiction can cause a rise in dopamine levels too.

THE IMPORTANCE OF SEEING ADDICTION AS A DISEASE

Seeing addiction as a disease is essential to understanding addiction and, as a society
and world, to do something about eradicating it. Addiction has been scientifically proven to be a disease through many brain studies and therefore by default this fact conclusively bypasses all moral questions.

Not that you would know this listening to the mainstream voice on addiction which – unless you are a celebrity – treats addicts like scum of the earth. The mainstream voice is bullying to addicts – pure and simple. The mainstream has zero interest in helping our collective addiction problem. Instead it hinders it with it’s holier than thou judgmental poison.

But whether the mainstream voice accepts it or not, addicts do have a disease and

should be treated as such. Whereas someone with cancer or diabetes gets sympathy, flowers and chocolates, addicts get hatred, are ostracized and are ridiculed. But none more so than someone who lies all the time. They are probably the most hated of all people with an addiction. This is very wrong. Non-pathological lying, as defined above, is an addiction like any other.

It is not a moral issue and should never be treated as such.

ARE YOU A LYING ADDICT?

If you suspect you are a lying addict, the following self assessment questions will help you determine whether you are or not…

1. Is your life out of control because of your lying?
2. Is your mind obsessed with your lies or lying?
3. Do you lie every day?
4. Do you fail to do what is important and normally expected of you because of your lying?
5. Do you risk aspects of your personal safety and the safety of your loved ones in order to lie?
6. Are you in danger of losing loved ones because of your lying?
7. Does your body crave the experience associated with lying so strongly that you feel you have to lie?
8. Have you ever decided to stop lying and lasted only a couple of days?
9. Do you ever wish people would mind their own business about your lying and stop telling you what to do?
10. Have you had problems in the last year because of your lying?
11. Has your lying caused you problems at home?
12. Will you lose your support system if you tell people about the lies you have told them?
13. Do you tell yourself you can stop lying any time you want even though you keep lying when you don’t mean to?
14. Have you ever felt like your life would be better if you didn’t lie?

A “yes” response to any of these questions suggests you may be a lying addict. Also, the more “yes” responses the more likely it is that you are a lying addict. However, only you can define yourself as a lying addict. That is nobody’s job but yours.

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Postby Billi Caine » Sun Jan 12, 2014 12:32 pm

Can people please give their feedback on this post so more voices can be added to the discussion so lying addiction is brought out of the darkness and put into the mainstream.
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Postby jmaneyapanda » Sun Jan 12, 2014 8:39 pm

This is an incredibly valuable and insightful assessment into ones discovery. I, for one, wish this was widely published and distributed amongst the pubic, to stop the invariable aggression towards those who suffer from a lying addiction. Although there is certainly some consequences and irreparable damage that comes from such an addict, just as depression, bipolar disorders, and even pathogenic diseases are acknowledged and treated as such (socially), this needs to as well.

-- Sun Jan 12, 2014 8:39 pm --

This is an incredibly valuable and insightful assessment into ones discovery. I, for one, wish this was widely published and distributed amongst the pubic, to stop the invariable aggression towards those who suffer from a lying addiction. Although there is certainly some consequences and irreparable damage that comes from such an addict, just as depression, bipolar disorders, and even pathogenic diseases are acknowledged and treated as such (socially), this needs to as well.
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Postby Billi Caine » Mon Jan 13, 2014 4:59 pm

Well said Jmaneyapanda.
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Postby jmaneyapanda » Mon Jan 13, 2014 6:54 pm

When I had my "moment of clarity" and abruptly and painfully realized I had the illness I had, one of the first things I did was to see what information might be available online. There, of course, was a lot of "advice" and personal accounts given out on general bulletin boards and non specialized forums, and one thing that immediately struck out to me was the amount of negative, non forgiving, and outright "bullying" behavior and suggestions there were towards people with this affliction. It was disconcerning, defeating, and crushing to read that so many felt that people with this affliction were "lost causes" and had no real merit. Thankfully, I found this forum, sought out professional help, and realized rather quickly that this flaw was reparable, and I was indeed not a bad person worthy of all the shame, contempt, and guilt I was feeling. That redemption was possible through my actions and activity. It is very unfortunate that the first things often found online about this illness are so negative, imprecise, and damaging, and hopefully this thread can find its way to some light to help defeat this misinformation.
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Postby Billi Caine » Mon Jan 13, 2014 8:38 pm

It was that severe bullying I witnessed too on mental health forums that started me on the road to get to the bottom of what compulsive lying was all about. One forum in particular is downright cruel to people who lie addictively and it horrified me. That is why I have the signature I do. One of my life goals is to change opinions about the whole issue. Not being a lying addict myself will make it easier for me to do that.
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Postby jmaneyapanda » Tue Jan 14, 2014 7:11 pm

Billi Caine wrote:It was that severe bullying I witnessed too on mental health forums that started me on the road to get to the bottom of what compulsive lying was all about. One forum in particular is downright cruel to people who lie addictively and it horrified me. That is why I have the signature I do. One of my life goals is to change opinions about the whole issue. Not being a lying addict myself will make it easier for me to do that.


Yes, I hope so. Although unimportant to my recovery, it is complicated for me to allow such insight, as it will be met with speculation and distrust. Kudos!
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Postby Fearfulinrecovery » Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:21 pm

Hi. I'm new to this forum, and I am 15 years sober from Alcohol. I'm hitting a bottom and falling apart. I have been on this site for the past hour, and googling incessently for help. I was called out yet again by someone I love as being a liar, and untrustworthy; she believes that i can't be trusted nor ever could have been. I am desperate for help, and quite honestly - hating myself at this moment. I hate all of the pain my lies have caused...and I'm so far gone that I don't even know why or if they are lies anymore. I feel so twisted up inside, and this friend has even said that after years of therapy she doesn't see any progress in me with regard to lying, or telling the truth. I am so fearful that i don't even know what the truth is anymore. I've read multiple pieces on how to stop lying and start telling the truth...today is all I have, this moment. I'd backtrack and tell the truth - but, i don't think I lied. Are there additional resources I can turn to? Or anyone who has ever felt this way, or anyone willing to guide me?
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Postby jmaneyapanda » Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:44 pm

I do know that feeling of being lost in yourself. It is quite maddening to be so unsure.

The question is, have you hit your low point? Have you had your "moment of truth"? Do you really believe that you have this problem, and you need to address it, for yourself? That is very critical.
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Postby Fearfulinrecovery » Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:37 pm

Yes, i believe i have hit bottom. i'm ready to stop lying and i need help. for myself. i cannot go on living this way. it has become too painful. i've previously identified it as "co-dependent" - lying so that others would be okay, but i'm recognizing that i'm so fearful that whatever i say will hurt others. I remind myself that i'm not that powerful, and everyone deserves to be dealing with the truth, the question is...how do i start telling the truth, and cleaning up the mess my life is in right this moment?

thank you for responding.
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