blank identity wrote:I'm starting to think what you're saying might be correct, addx. I've heard others report being like two different people, and I too have felt that way in the past. I never thought it had anything to do with being bipolar, but what you say does make sense and backs up what others have said. (about being more of one PD while in the bipolar depressive phase, and being more of a different PD while in the manic phase).
It does make sense to me. I do disagree that you can't be one or the other full time, because I can tell you, that no matter how depressed or manic I am, I am always borderline. But I definitely think bipolar states can exacerbate things.
Not sure what you meant but I did make a bad typo in that paragraph.
I do think a person can NOT have any mix of those 2-3-4 "mind states"/PDs at the same time(meaning same moment in time).
Narcissism apparent in all 4 PDs makes it seem like they overlap but my claim is that there is a precise difference in the source of narcissism and it can be clearly detected in the behavior.
I do think most people with PDs have only one of them for the length of their lives. And there is no "traits of this and traits of that". The basic underlying PD makes the traits work differently. A cerebral NPDer will manifest very similar behavior to a "cerebral BPDer". You have an example on the forum of VirginiaEsquire and me. Our behavior is very similar at a first glance, we are both "educating" others with various threads, we both like the sound of our thoughts, see the written, glance over them 10 times before posting. Pretty much the same. But if you look at the content you'll find that I'm often trying to solve world problems while he is describing NPD behaviors similar to vankin. I have much passion and obsession about my texts and I am very anxious to see on how my texts are accepted and my mood depends on this. I'd say virg is not that emotionally invested in his posts. We both seem to be validating, but I'm validating that I'm usefull and smart and he's more validating that he smart - with the intention of increasing his strength with the validation. There's a very clean distinction between him and I although at a first glance we have the same "trait". But even the trait functions differently because of out different PDs. So I'm basicly invalidating the future DSM now. What can I do, cerebral BPDs get too arrogant while being cerebral, it seems cerebral NPDers do not make that mistake ever. It's a function of BPD low-self esteem, inability to delay gratitude and inability to use own confidence to "run a situation" but rather cause a situation by overreacting and have others run it for him. etc...
Anyway, got carried away, back on topic
I do also think that a small number of people with PDs switch around temporarily due to very varying chemical balances caused by bipolar or by other switching disorders like DID.
I have spoken with you a lot and I do think your official diagnosis is correct. BPD is the PD that will cause/manifest the most side-kick disorders due their lowest self-esteem resulting from BPD patterns of behavior. BPDers offering self-sacrifice in order to be accepted - which gets rejected easily by normal people who do not understand what it means for a BPDer. BPDers compulsively do this until they run their naturally low self-esteem unto the ground or develop compensatory narcissism which stops them from banging their head against the wall like that. The BPDer is increasingly trying to make sense of the world which keeps rejecting his self-sacrifice or abusing it, he can't seem to find a balance so he rationalizes, ponders, makes plans to preempt bad stuff that happened to him before, it all gets complicated to convolute all that weakness into something that looks strong. This is also a recipe for obsessions.