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Could you describe what its like to have your "own world"?

Postby Reiz16 » Sat Nov 24, 2012 12:34 pm

If you don't mind me asking, I'd very much like to know. What action do you take/associate with it in order to do it? What is it like once you're there?
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Re: Could you describe what its like to have your "own world

Postby Fallen_Angel73 » Sat Nov 24, 2012 12:46 pm

I don't really understand the concept. If anything, I've never been out of "there".
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Re: Could you describe what its like to have your "own world

Postby herflik » Sat Nov 24, 2012 1:45 pm

Like anagram said, I have never been out of my own world, like everybody else. We have our own way of perceving world, give values and weight to other things in it. You might reach point in your life that "open your eyes" and see new things from that point onwards.

There is no own world if we look at this from other side. For me we all are one, just divided temporialy, though we could be divided even more (and we are all time). So you are never alone, you are always in some group, so how can you have your "own" world??
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Re: Could you describe what its like to have your "own world

Postby AprilR » Sat Nov 24, 2012 4:39 pm

I don't think i've ever understood what that means either :?

I think everyone has their own invidual thoughts/feelings about things in general and i guess that can be called "their own world"? So going by that since most people with asd are generally more introverted/shy they can be seen as "in their own world" more often? It's kind of a romanticized concept i think..
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Re: Could you describe what its like to have your "own world

Postby TDT » Sat Nov 24, 2012 5:17 pm

The way I'm interpreting this question is where someone forgoes associating with people/society to do their own thing, in their own mind, etc. If that definition is accurate, then, yes I could be seen as "being in my own world" quite a bit. Personally, I don't believe "being in your own world" is really anything different than just having passions and all. If you're working on something, and excluding the rest of the world while doing it (be that, work or play), then you're "in your own world".

So I think it's more common than people let on. For those on the ASD spectrum, their passions may be more important than dealing with others/socializing. For those people, well...maybe they're just in their own world more than others.
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Re: Could you describe what its like to have your "own world

Postby Fallen_Angel73 » Sat Nov 24, 2012 5:48 pm

Reiz16 wrote:If you don't mind me asking, I'd very much like to know. What action do you take/associate with it in order to do it? What is it like once you're there?

May I ask you what prompted you to ask this question? This is really not just something I don't understand, it's actually something that I find very intriguing. I've seen both autistics and neurotypicals talking about this "private world" thing, and I honestly have no idea what it's supposed to be about. It's apparently taken to be more literal than TDT's interpretation.

For example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OV_CcmLlaw4#t=4m55s

(Bonus feature: don't forget to check the "interactive transcript" option (two buttons to the right of "Share"). It's priceless!)
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Re: Could you describe what its like to have your "own world

Postby TDT » Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:54 pm

This is a subject I'll have to take a look into in more detail too. Another way, I suppose of interpreting this, would be the idea of daydreaming - or that sorta world. I don't know if I consider that a separate world so much...but then again, maybe I'm not totally sure what this all means.

For daydreaming...I spend way too much time in that, and yes that does usually mean cutting out the rest of the world while doing it. I found the video interesting in that they related the idea of running as being in one's own world. He/She said that it wasn't the same, because the sense of "self" was still there. So...I suppose I'm kinda curious, would the "own world" in this case be the world of daydreaming. I suppose I ask this because I know when daydreaming, or really living an alternate reality of sorts - I'm not usually myself doing it. It could be thinking of having some kinda super powers, or being a different character...kinda like what some people do with role playing.
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Re: Could you describe what its like to have your "own world

Postby Fallen_Angel73 » Sat Nov 24, 2012 9:07 pm

TDT wrote:It could be thinking of having some kinda super powers, or being a different character...kinda like what some people do with role playing.

But then again, is this really a counterpart to what would be the "private world" of a nonverbal autistic? Is this really something we can define? (I'm really curious about this.)

I saw this video a few days ago, and to me it was almost mind-bending: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnylM1hI2jc

I'm the "verbally-oriented" type, so in some aspects I'm the exact opposite of the "typical" autistic/aspie, who struggles with language. I struggle with visualization. I get people's faces mixed-up. A "daydream world" is something completely unimaginable to me. I live in a world of unseeable fragments.
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Re: Could you describe what its like to have your "own world

Postby herflik » Sat Nov 24, 2012 11:02 pm

anagram wrote:
TDT wrote:It could be thinking of having some kinda super powers, or being a different character...kinda like what some people do with role playing.

But then again, is this really a counterpart to what would be the "private world" of a nonverbal autistic? Is this really something we can define? (I'm really curious about this.)

I saw this video a few days ago, and to me it was almost mind-bending: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnylM1hI2jc

I'm the "verbally-oriented" type, so in some aspects I'm the exact opposite of the "typical" autistic/aspie, who struggles with language. I struggle with visualization. I get people's faces mixed-up. A "daydream world" is something completely unimaginable to me. I live in a world of unseeable fragments.


Thats video you posted is well, familar to me a bit. I was atracted similary to things like in this video, but I didnt do the sounds and I "got over it" after I got older. Its like I gathered information about it and then moved on to the next step. For me gathering information and analizing it, is just big part of my life.
I would say that autistic person like this one on vid, is just extreme case of how one can perceive a world. Its just like they were given a different tools, just like they would be different specie to us. The same as dog perceive world not as we do, though there are as many new things you "see" and that you dont "see" anymore.

I daydream alot too, I like to do it, to be absorbed ( like most aspies) by my thoughts.
I have seperate world that everybody of you have aswell, but probably more limited or required training. I am speaking here about DREAMS, literally, with I had since I was around 5. They were always conciouss for me, meaning I had natural lucid dreams that at least noone I know have without proper training.
Thats totally seperated world for this, have different laws and many things that fascinate me to this day. It give me alot of information that I wouldnt posses otherwise, also alot of fun that is impossible to have in this world. I could (and still can) watch "life" from so many different angles thanks to this (even as NT or having other disorders), to many I would say. My memory is totally overloaded, since I remember most of the stuff I interact with every night. Almost once in each month I have dream where I live avarangly 40 years (thats how your coniocness can speed up without limitation of physical world).
Well I could literally write small book about information revolving around dream world, but I dont wanna go to much offtopic (again).

I can only write that there is basicaly infinite amount of ways how you can see world, and each of them give new expriance. Some of them are radiculusly different, other are similar with small changes. Our brain have vast capabilities, but how to say, it dont feel like giving it to us since its not required to live happily, and the cost might be to giant to suistain it.
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Re: Could you describe what its like to have your "own world

Postby Fallen_Angel73 » Sun Nov 25, 2012 11:50 pm

I'm thinking... If some people find their "private world" in a detailed imaginary universe separate from physical existence, and I simply cannot conceive how it would even be possible to visualize and experience such level of imaginary detail, maybe my "private world" would be the opposite of this. It would be the attribution of emotion to natural elements and inanimate objects. Which is the natural state of existence, so often and so constantly disturbed by the principles dictated by social existence.

Maybe this is why this song/video (Jóga) had such a powerful impact on me the first time I saw it, almost a decade ago. It feels almost as an ultimate, formless truth spelled out in words and music. I think it's a perfect illustration:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3as9y.

Even though the lyrics employ a grammatical second person, I think the video makes it perfectly clear that the the words are not addressed to any human being, or any being or element with perceived human attributes. The singer herself (Björk) looks completely still and unemotional. The natural elements and landscapes portrayed, on the other hand, are intense and overpowering on their own. That's where the music emanates from.

This is another video I used to illustrate, in an old thread, what I perceived to be "the meaning of life" (which I simply couldn't express in words): http://vimeo.com/8514501
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