Could you describe what its like to have your "own world"?

OP - It has happened without any "action" on my part, and it has happened with "action" on my part where I have submerged myself entirely with an alternate reality of sorts.

It's like looking through the world with a new pair of eyes.

There are also ways to suspend disbelief, or to dip into denial to cushion your everyday with pleasantries, rather than self vindictive, and potentially unrealistic "realities".





I've skimmed through the thread. I didn't realize this was an "Asburgers" or an "Autistic" thread. I might be either or, I've certainly had others call me it in the past.

I'd say when it's the day to day it's creative at work.

When it's "out of this world" temporarily, it's potentially spiritual.

Another one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_BSfkTFQ4M

Reiz16 wrote:What action do you take/associate with it in order to do it?

I hadn't noticed the question before. But I guess it's clear by now that the catalyst for me is music, and music videos in special. Listening to music (all the time) or watching these videos (at every opportunity) is the kind of repetitive thing that I do.

What is it like once you're there?

Disconnected from people. Peaceful.

anagram wrote:

TDT wrote:It could be thinking of having some kinda super powers, or being a different character...kinda like what some people do with role playing.

But then again, is this really a counterpart to what would be the "private world" of a nonverbal autistic? Is this really something we can define? (I'm really curious about this.)

I saw this video a few days ago, and to me it was almost mind-bending: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnylM1hI2jc

I'm the "verbally-oriented" type, so in some aspects I'm the exact opposite of the "typical" autistic/aspie, who struggles with language. I struggle with visualization. I get people's faces mixed-up. A "daydream world" is something completely unimaginable to me. I live in a world of unseeable fragments.

*shrug* I'm not sure.

That's interesting that you have a difficult time struggling with visualizations and have a hard time daydreaming. I honestly wish I didn't have such a daydreaming issue. I've run into stuff while walking, walked off roads/sidewalks, and nearly crashed my vehicle more than once due to getting too "into my world." It usually is worse if I'm tired at all, and I get the urge to be in it when I'm very anxious. Kinda be glad you don't have a similar issue Forgetting where you're at, totally phasing out of normal existence or so while enveloped in thoughts is both kinda an awesome experience, as well as a real problem. I've spent many hours a day, for weeks, in certain sets of thoughts. You, essentially, stop getting anything else done - and it does impact work ability, bad.

anagram wrote:I'm thinking... If some people find their "private world" in a detailed imaginary universe separate from physical existence, and I simply cannot conceive how it would even be possible to visualize and experience such level of imaginary detail, maybe my "private world" would be the opposite of this.

Physical existance is only information source (in some way), everything really happens in your brain. Like you dont see things with your eyes, they gather information and you see it via brain. That apply to every sense human posses. Additionaly to that our brain remember more stuff than we have access to, thats why it operate on complex physics since you were smallm where your conciousness didnt even know what the word physic means.

So there is practicaly no problem for brain to create another reality using the brain function it uses normaly, but instead taking information from memory rather than tools that are our senses.
You will have like that perfectly detailed world, literally identical to real one, yet more flexible in its laws/rules.
But I dont have idea of how someone could "command" brain to do that at will, or initiate it in some other way. I only know its possible, but I guess all this info was obvious anyway.

herflik wrote:So there is practicaly no problem for brain to create another reality using the brain function it uses normaly, but instead taking information from memory rather than tools that are our senses.

That's the thing. My memory is subordinate to my senses. It's sequential. A sensory information triggers something, which triggers something else, which triggers yet something else, and so on. There's nothing akin to a room where everything has a place and follows a certain set of rules or patterns. This is why it's so hard for me to imagine something like realistic daydreaming, like a "parallel universe" of your own. I learn most efficiently through images and patterns, but I distill them and store them as sequential information.

Realistic daydreaming isn't so much about rules, but more to do with memory.

I have a very odd memory in some regards. It's very poor at many things, but it's almost photographic in other areas (e.g. I could tell you, day by day, what a person was wearing a year ago, but I don't recall what I was doing at work 2 weeks ago). With that said, really doing realistic daydreaming really only involves pulling up memories of specific events. The daydreaming could be reliving most of what you remember, or it could be variations. It's actually quite easy to do.

Realistic daydreaming of areas I haven't been to is much harder. So..if I'm imagining a new place I haven't seen in a movie/TV or been to, I generally have a harder time, if not more impossible, bringing that scene up.

On the other hand, recalling a specific place I have been to is easy. For example, a room in the engineering building (on the 4th floor) I've been in a handful of times. It's 2 tables brought together to form one table (perfectly square) with a whiteboard and single marker on the south end of the room, a wood shelf of sorts on the east end of the room that extends a few feet. The blinds in the room are the old style blinds (ones with the long metal pieces that you adjust to turn the blinds up or down), and are usually uneven on the right side by about an inch. The windowsill is a half metal grate -like style (long open areas, with about a 1/2 inch space inbetween them) extending the whole width. There's usually a bottle of cleaner and a rag on the area by the blinds. The carpet is a dark brown color, uneven in some areas. The chairs are metal chairs with red seat and backrest, disconnected (back piece is separate from the seat), with a black plastic armrest attached to the metal structure. The room is fairly dark, and has two light switches (one I'm unsure what it does) and a thermostat with the front of it broken off. The door is light brown, and there's a window besides it (long, rectangular).

Pulling up that room to have a daydream involving it is really quite easy when one can pull in an extreme amount of detail only being in that room a few times (last time, a month ago or so). I can do that with other areas too, so much I can tell you where people sit in my class, for example.

I wonder more about other way of having your own world, not daydreaming or dreams themself, more like other sensory data. What if our senses are catching much more stuff than it let us know? There might be people (or animals) that have access to the other %, so for them its like living in new world, seeing it differently. Tradeoff that is rare phenomen, just like autism is tradeoff too. We perceive the world also differently than NT people, even the socializing problem is a way of looking on world.
Humanity have a big flaw in it thu, tend to say "its bad if it isnt working as norm", what if norm is the one that work badly, or that everything work as it was intended too. Society destroy everything that is different from the common, so how we are supposed to learn anything important if we put ourself in a narrow path?
If you wanna see other world, you first need to accept its existance. Similary to a fairy tale, you cant see them since you dont belive in them.
Personaly I accept anything, if it exist it must have a reason. But many people would now say that science that and that and that.
I like science, but the concept of it also has a gigantic flaw. It base everything on senses of humans, where its arrogant to think that we are so special to be able to describe everything. Its just the same arrogance as when we though everything whirls around earth. If you look closely you will see this arrogance in many places, humanity didnt learn a s...t from the mistakes in past, its pathetic.

Reiz16 wrote:If you don't mind me asking, I'd very much like to know. What action do you take/associate with it in order to do it? What is it like once you're there?

First thing, I am disappointed Reiz16 hasn't elaborated on what s/he meant.
It sounds like Reiz16 is a non asperian and believes we live in a totally separate world that may be more in keeping with profound autism... <shrug>

When I was younger I would have lived in an autistic world bubble as a result of lack of life awareness due to isolation and general social dissociation...
These days, for me personally, living in a fantasy is the last thing I want to do possibly due to the abject confusion I experienced when I was young.
My motto says it all:
"I'd rather live a harsh truth than a comfortable lie" or fantasy...

And as people who know me will attest, I am interest in the truth, the whole truth and finding Claudia Schiffer's underpants on ebay...

Give me scientific evidence to live by...
Evidence which can only be acquired through real life interaction...
Not fanciful philosophical embroidery without reason, logic, psychological studies and empirical experimentation...

Sh3ld0n wrote:My motto says it all:
"I'd rather live a harsh truth than a comfortable lie" or fantasy...

To most people, this means you "live in your own world". Because they're not doing what you're doing, they're not interested in it, and you're not interested in the fact that they're not interested in it.

anagram wrote:

Sh3ld0n wrote:My motto says it all:
"I'd rather live a harsh truth than a comfortable lie" or fantasy...

To most people, this means you "live in your own world". Because they're not doing what you're doing, they're not interested in it, and you're not interested in the fact that they're not interested in it.

Well my context/reference of wanting to live in the *real* world is not the same as "what its like to have your "own world"...

To me, the term "living-in/having your own world" suggests being in variance with reality...
(I believe in the concept that there are no versions of the truth...
Different perceptions of the truth perhaps...
Versions, no...)
And I have the impression Reiz may believe we asperians may be creating our own reality, hence my particular discussional tack...
I don't even know if Reiz is an asperian or simply wants to understand what it is like...<shrug>

Exploring concepts and having a philosophical discussion is fine with me...
I rarely complain about people going off on a tangent...
We are asperians...
Its our job to do so...

However, I would like to know what Reiz actually meant by the initial post...
I would like verification of what context is being used...
Personally speaking, I don't have enough information to effectively work with yet...

The simplest method of getting to the truth of what was actually meant by the post is to ask Reiz for clarification...
<shrug>