the dark & light spirits

Well there are tons of videos and video games that show violence, but most people dont partake in it in real life. Same as the racist comedy or eccentric relationships.

The thing is that, you have to find tricks to overcome the situation. Like when I had the worst voices, nothing would make them go away, I didnt even know who the voices were at the time.

I had some singular voices from influential moments of my past. One of them was a professor that bugged me everytime I wrote something.

What I would do to clear the voices was walk with my mom, we would just go out because this would usually clear the voices as long as I was engaged.

I used to check frequently for the voices that was a bad habit.

As long as crazymoth knows the difference between reality and his mind that is fine, from his posts, he seems to be good to others.

In my dreams I picture myself as the shining Jedi knight, fighting the evil of the dark-side. It's too easy to play into this role when a terrible schizophrenic episode hits.

Like a true Jedi, first you try to soothe the situation... make nice and be diplomatic.

If this doesn't work and the dark-side encroaches there is only one friend you have left: your trusty light-saber! In my case it's a sword that's been handed down to me by my father and grandfather (we're a military family in real-life). It's been in the family for years. I picture this sword as I fight the minions of death shining with glory and laying woe to my enemies.

Like I said, sometimes you have to get creative.

crazymoth wrote:It's cool... you won't know until you've walked in our shoes man. Peace.

I still recommend no fear with the voices, demons, spirits... whatever they are. And if they are yelling at you non-stop and their demonic faces are all around you, go ahead and fight back. Visualize it. Slice and bash their stinkin' heads off. Get creative. Sometimes it's the only way man. Been there so many times. There is nothing wrong with fighting back and sticking up for yourself.

Is this the adivice you would give to the many schizophrenics who do these type of things to REAL people?

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visualizations wrote:Well there are tons of videos and video games that show violence, but most people dont partake in it in real life. Same as the racist comedy or eccentric relationships.

The thing is that, you have to find tricks to overcome the situation. Like when I had the worst voices, nothing would make them go away, I didnt even know who the voices were at the time.

I had some singular voices from influential moments of my past. One of them was a professor that bugged me everytime I wrote something.

What I would do to clear the voices was walk with my mom, we would just go out because this would usually clear the voices as long as I was engaged.

I used to check frequently for the voices that was a bad habit.

As long as crazymoth knows the difference between reality and his mind that is fine, from his posts, he seems to be good to others.

Schizophrenia isn't a video game and is matched very close to real life among people who sturggle to make good decisions. If a schizophrenic is going to live every waking hour being a homicidal maniac how do you think they could approach real life?

rattatat i agree there's a certain amount of responsibility of a speaker to correctly articulate words but ultimately what someone does with those words is really on them.

you're not like them folks who wanted banned catcher in the rye, are ya? the guy who shot lennon because he said he read the book and was convinced?

nah, crazymoth said nothing regarding bashing real people's heads in. if someone does it? responsibility lies with who did it.

ocular_razor wrote:rattatat i agree there's a certain amount of responsibility of a speaker to correctly articulate words but ultimately what someone does with those words is really on them.

you're not like them folks who wanted banned catcher in the rye, are ya? the guy who shot lennon because he said he read the book and was convinced?

nah, crazymoth said nothing regarding bashing real people's heads in. if someone does it? responsibility lies with who did it.

OK so the chances of an at risk person approaching a real life situation in the same manner increases because the person is too dumb and lazy to approach the situation in an appropraite manner. Did you forget that crazymoth has admitted to trying to KILL two different real people. Do you want to know why? Not all schizophrenics NEED to become sickos to handle their schizophrenia.

rattatat why do you only associate schizophrenics with violent and aggressive maniacs?

i know too many people who just don't think they should control their actions consistently thinking about and then acting on bashing people's heads in.

and? for some reason these guys are the 'heroes'. for letting aggression, that deals nothing with self-defense, run rampant.

everyone i've talked to more than five minutes? has a homicidal fantasy. everyone thinks about it.

everyone. some more than others sure, and a few that carry it out fully.


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i remember kinda when crazymoth said that.

don't pretend you've never acted out a violent urge. one doesn't need to pump 600lbs of iron to channel aggression/frustration/anger.

ocular_razor wrote:rattatat why do you only associate schizophrenics with violent and aggressive maniacs?

i know too many people who just don't think they should control their actions consistently thinking about and then acting on bashing people's heads in.

and? for some reason these guys are the 'heroes'. for letting aggression, that deals nothing with self-defense, run rampant.

everyone i've talked to more than five minutes? has a homicidal fantasy. everyone thinks about it.

everyone. some more than others sure, and a few that carry it out fully.


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i remember kinda when crazymoth said that.

don't pretend you've never acted out a violent urge. one doesn't need to pump 600lbs of iron to channel aggression/frustration/anger.

Even if most people think about killing someone for five minutes during their lifetime that is far different to imprison people constanly into these thoughts throughout their entire lives.

ya know rattatat, i agree about the imprisonment to an extent.

but sometimes shining sunshine out of your ass doesn't stop a figurative mugger from slicin your throat.

so perhaps it deals more with an end-game strategy which certainly varies from person to person.

and let's say for imagery's sake that someone wielding a gun to take your wallet doesn't really care to listen to anything you have to say and has about one-second before pulling the trigger.

there ain't nothin pretty about war. not a damn thing about it. but don't forget that crazymoth mentioned 'diplomacy'.

At the end of the day it is only your imagination so why damage your ability to live real life for a delusion.

that's certainly a fair assessment.

i haven't been able to package this into a nice little neat sentence as of yet so bear with me.

but fantasy and reality spill over into each other. i think it's just as dangerous to consolidate something into fantasy, where this 'something' really is a part of both.

it deals with risk assessment what i'm talking about. let's say someone decided that killers are only to be packaged as fantasy, so when walking around in reality one decides it is a good idea to hop in a van after being bound by duct tape by someone.

after all, it's only fantasy right? nothin like that happens in the real world according to that person.

ultimately what i think it comes down to like you suggested is learning to have control over reactions to an extent. i don't think it's that one needs to stop channeling something (moreso since the lack of channeling leads to pressurizing and eventually a burst), but just to ensure that he absolutely must need to resort to something.

just about all of military training involves this psychological aspect. they call it 'eliminating threats'. but it means not disregarding surroundings along with not disregarding the insides.

some people call them 'zen masters'. but it all involves mastering the self.