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Postby tonya » Tue Jun 28, 2005 10:24 pm

I still can not get my boyfriend to even consider he might he suufering from schizophrenia. He hears voices and swears someone must have planted a device in his ears. He says they talk about things he has no reference to or never heard before so it can't be "him." My question: when people hear voices can they be about things they have no knowledge of?
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Postby asmo » Wed Jun 29, 2005 12:50 am

voices

are possibly

the most terrifying thing there is!

in my opinion voices are not something that are additional that mentally ill people experience.

you see, the voices are always there in everybody, isane or sane, but here is where the difference is
people who are sane and say they dont hear voices only say this because they dont interpret these messages that are sent to the brain as voices but as rather their own thoughts (quit normal)

these messages are exactly the same in the insane but when these same messages are sent around the brain they are not received the same way

its like two people having a different perception of the same thing if you get my drift



i dont belive voices are something additional but rather a misinterpretation of the everyday signals that everyone has
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Postby Open Mind » Wed Jun 29, 2005 1:10 am

Tonya,

Sometimes, it is very hard to tell "voices" from reality, even he has insight about the illness, because the "voices" are so real to him.

The hallucination of schizophrenia is really waking dreams. Just think of how we reacted in our dreams, you will understand more about people suffering from schizophrenia.
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Postby shadowsinme » Mon Jul 25, 2005 9:11 pm

your boyfriend's voices seem alot like mine. I also could swear there is a little speaker inside my ear when i hear them. And usually, they say things that make no sense and have nothing to do with anything, like "stop the water dropplets!" i also sometimes hear voices that talk in other languages.

and yes, auditory hallucinations can come in any form. The voices could be commenting on what a person is doing, yelling and screaming, singing, telling them to hurt themselves or hurt someone else, talk in other languages, say things that make no sense, etc, etc.
The voices could be of familiar people that the person knows, or they could be voices of people they've never heard before.

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Postby john7angel » Tue Jul 26, 2005 2:20 am

The voices are your own voice with a belief to or with your feelings.
The voices become reality because a belief to a feeling or an emition that it is anothere person. Meaning, you get a feeling peace, you may thing that feeling is God, and get another feeling such as fear and a belief that its the devil becaomes real. These feeling and voices and combined with thoughts, becomes a reality to us people that suffering from schizophrenia. This is a deluisional state. This is the cause from the illness. When out of that state and back in reality, that state we was in is or was just like a dream. It is reality and its not real, yet, we don't know that or when we do know it, we can't or not sure how to snap out of it. It comes and goes out of our control, yet, sometimes if you fight it (and i don't know for sure if it works or not) you/we can snap out of it. And i know i spend alot of time trying to get back into reality. And at times i'm confused to what reality is, and spend alot of time trying to know what reality is, as it can get confusing at times. If your in a deluisional state for a long time, you believe that is reality.
If your boyfriend is in this state, with voices, (as long as it isn't dangerius in what he is thinking or the things he does) then he is just going threw what this/these illnesses does. (As in most cases with people schizophrenia, we have more then just schizophrenia) Bp and OCD are comman i believe with schizophrenia.
I would say, he needs his meds or meds if he is not on any. And that is if the meds work for him.
I would get him to go with you to the doctors to get some meds, if he gets bad where he doesn't know what reality is, i would maybe amit him into a Hosp.
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Postby Guest » Tue Jul 26, 2005 2:20 am

Just some info that maybe useful.

The Hearing Voices Network.

http://www.hearing-voices.org/
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Postby 987654321 » Tue Jul 26, 2005 4:54 pm

I've heard voices on quite a few occasions, but I understand that they're coming from my brain and not from others. They stopped and I'm not worried about it, although I'm disappointed, because it was interesting.
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hmmmmm

Postby Storm » Sun Jul 31, 2005 10:17 am

Yes, he is transforming in to a schizophrenic and it looks like he will eventually get"dillusional reference".When I was struck down with paranoid schizophenia...I had this weird perception in my head that homeless bag ladies/men get it..so i did'nt want to be associated with it in anyway with the discease(I got actually violently incensed when it was implied).Another thing to keep in mind is that it really hurts,when some one says "you're sick and need help"...just tell him he needs "a time out".There are very intelligent folk who have shcizophrenia at varying degrees and confronted their illness,and have dealt with it and have moved on.My family ratted me out,so I was'nt completely honest with the psychiatrist about hearing voices,eventually I gave in...and found some schizophenics hilarious who had the same symptoms(I was hospitalized six months at two hospitals.Keep in mind schizophrenia to me, is a sane mind trying to survive in an insane surreal environment...and trying to make sense of it all.Your treading on someones "concept of self"(that includes manhood)...so choose your words wisely.As for having knowledge,he is basically regurgitating stuff he has previously read or seen passively in the past and has expanded on it(I have several theories on the physics that basically have be shown to be true)


By the way....I don't have the paranoia or microchips(I used to be an "on call 24 hour 7 conspiracy theorist")...just have the annoying voices :roll:
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re:correction

Postby Storm » Sun Jul 31, 2005 9:28 pm

My last comment should read

...I don't have paranoia or microchips *anymore* 8)
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