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comparing antipsychotic dosing?

Postby Guest » Mon Apr 03, 2006 9:46 pm

Hi I'm interested if anyone has information on antipsychotic dosing? I've found that 200mg seroqual works for me. Also 7.5 mg Zyprexa is pretty good. Is 200mg seroqual = 7.5mg Zyprexa (or is it closer to 5mg (in terms of dose strength.) I'm planning on trying abilify. I've never tried it before but I'm guessing that 10mg Abilify is about the same as 200mg seroqual and 7.5mg Zyprexa (in terms of dose strength). Does this sound correct?
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Postby Guest » Tue Apr 04, 2006 4:44 pm

No idea. I can tell you that my psychiatrist says that while a high dose of one drug works for one person, a lower dose of another might work just as well for that person. Everyone reacts differently to different drugs. So while you got on fine on 7.5mg of Zyprexa, they had me on 25mg (and I'm small. About 5'4 and under 9 stone) before it did much. But that's not to say that I might manage just as well on say 100mg Seroquel.
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Postby HeatherJo » Tue Apr 04, 2006 9:57 pm

I was on 20mg of Zyprexa, then changed to 200mg of Serequel. I didn't like the weight gain from either. I gained 40lbs in 6 months. I considered taking Abilify or Geodon, but the costs are expensive. Instead, I'm taking Artane and Trilafon. These are my miracle pills. (Well, they're only a portion of my cocktail) I'm only 25 years old, but I've been trying different medications for 15 years now.
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Postby Guest » Tue Apr 04, 2006 10:21 pm

after 4 years of taking antipsychotics, i told my psychiatrists to get ###$ and i stopped taking meds. they said i'd last 2 weeks before i'd be in a locked ward. that was 22 years ago and i've never taken meds or seen a quack since.

the best dose is no dose.
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Postby Guest » Wed Apr 05, 2006 6:51 am

Guest, I agree with you, but it's not always possible to do that. Nobody told me I'd end up ill again, and my psychiatrist told me it was my decision; so I stopped taking meds. And got very ill, very quickly. I'd be happy to try and ride it through if it wasn't for the fact that I have a family, and responsibilities towards them. I have a fantastic supportive husband, who is also unhappy about me taking meds, but my kids suffer if I don't. Devil and the deep blue sea... but please do remember not all of us are in a position to stop taking meds. John Nash got better without; but it took him 30 years. I can't afford that thirty years right now. :( I've missed out on my kids' lives enough as it is, and they don't want or need a mother who can't even string a sensible sentence together for the next three decades.

Meds cause problems; but they do, like it or not, offer solutions to some of us some of the time.
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Postby Guest » Wed Apr 05, 2006 9:32 am

it didn't take me 30 years to recover. it took 3 months. i did a lot of hard work and stopped every symptom of schizophrenia in 3 months.

people who know me say it was a miracle......#######4!

i just changed the way i thought, back to a more socially acceptable way. i fought and fought and fought.

on the flip side, if i choose, i can become psychotic within an hour and a half, IF I CHOOSE. i usually only choose to do it when i'm pissed off with the other form of psychosis called normality.

i control my mind now because i did the work.

sz is not a disease, you can beat it if you want, you can control it if you want, you can totally eliminate it if you want. all without meds.

a big part of it is learning to keep your mouth shut and not say anything weird.

it sounds like you believe you have a disease, good frigin luck with the chemical lobotomy. you sound like you've either been fooled by quacks, your using your dx for a excuse (deminished responibility) or your just lazy and don't want to do head work.

we all make our beds to lay in though don't we?
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Postby Guest » Wed Apr 05, 2006 9:05 pm

honestly from my personal experience i tryed to cure my schizophrenia with lots of hard work. healthy diet, vitamins, oils, changing the way i think, and etc. Well i tryed this for a year, without success. it was a year of psychotic hell. i heard voices 24/7. i felt like I wasn't a human (because I knew my experincies where unusual and abnormal, but I couldn't stop it. I was an ailen. I hated it, i felt like dying but i was to pu$$y to kill myself (thank god). trust me hearing voices constantly is like living through hell (wheather their friendly or dangorous, it dosen't really matter).

of course i totally agree with guest and some of the other anti-med people who come on here. hey by all means i encourage you guys and everyone else with schizophrenia/psychosis/depression to cure themselves without meds. heck i'd do it if i could. unfortunetly in my case i inherited my psychosis genetically and it must of been more severe then your guys is.

I've been on meds for 6 months and i'm doing great! no more voices! i'm going to school and enjoying life.

lastly i want to encourage anyone whos heard voices for over 6 months to try meds. they do work and some of the newer ones don't cause that many side-effects. it might take a few trys at different ones to find the right one and dose for you. also their's no miracle pill, it'll take a while before they really work to their full effect. usually between 1-2 months.

in my opinion here is the biggest false assumption made about meds:

1. that they decrease your intelligence. not true! i have a family friend whos a university professor at a major university. his schizophrenic and takes meds. actually his the most normal guy you'll ever meet. another family firend is psychotic and takes meds, she has a scholarship at another major university for her intlligence. people should start ripping meds in this way. in fact i wouldn't be surprised if they eventualy come out with a study that shows that meds can actually increase intelligence. i know its true in my case. because now my brain has time to do normal things and not worry and live in a psychotic state.

good luck to everybody! and again like i said if you can cure psychosis or schizophrenia without meds i admire you and wish you all the best.
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Postby Guest » Thu Apr 06, 2006 6:09 am

for a lengthier debate on this check out the "anti-psych forum" room. under "why bash meds?"
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Postby Guest » Thu Apr 06, 2006 8:21 am

Anonymous wrote:it didn't take me 30 years to recover. it took 3 months. i did a lot of hard work and stopped every symptom of schizophrenia in 3 months.

people who know me say it was a miracle......#######4!

i just changed the way i thought, back to a more socially acceptable way. i fought and fought and fought.

on the flip side, if i choose, i can become psychotic within an hour and a half, IF I CHOOSE. i usually only choose to do it when i'm pissed off with the other form of psychosis called normality.

i control my mind now because i did the work.

sz is not a disease, you can beat it if you want, you can control it if you want, you can totally eliminate it if you want. all without meds.

a big part of it is learning to keep your mouth shut and not say anything weird.

it sounds like you believe you have a disease, good frigin luck with the chemical lobotomy. you sound like you've either been fooled by quacks, your using your dx for a excuse (deminished responibility) or your just lazy and don't want to do head work.

we all make our beds to lay in though don't we?


What a shame you recovered to become such an arrogant, judgmental person.

Maybe there was never anything wrong with you in the first place; maybe you used psychosis as an excuse until you discovered all it got you was meds. How lucky you are to be able to swicth symptoms on an off like that.

Don't you dare judge me.
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Postby Guest » Thu Apr 06, 2006 9:45 am

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:it didn't take me 30 years to recover. it took 3 months. i did a lot of hard work and stopped every symptom of schizophrenia in 3 months.

people who know me say it was a miracle......#######4!

i just changed the way i thought, back to a more socially acceptable way. i fought and fought and fought.

on the flip side, if i choose, i can become psychotic within an hour and a half, IF I CHOOSE. i usually only choose to do it when i'm pissed off with the other form of psychosis called normality.

i control my mind now because i did the work.

sz is not a disease, you can beat it if you want, you can control it if you want, you can totally eliminate it if you want. all without meds.

a big part of it is learning to keep your mouth shut and not say anything weird.

it sounds like you believe you have a disease, good frigin luck with the chemical lobotomy. you sound like you've either been fooled by quacks, your using your dx for a excuse (deminished responibility) or your just lazy and don't want to do head work.

we all make our beds to lay in though don't we?


What a shame you recovered to become such an arrogant, judgmental person.

Maybe there was never anything wrong with you in the first place; maybe you used psychosis as an excuse until you discovered all it got you was meds. How lucky you are to be able to swicth symptoms on an off like that.

Don't you dare judge me.


ok I apologise for being so harsh.

i am genuinely concerned about your well being (and every dx sz).

you can beat sz. the WHO studies & mosher etc have shown this.

the longer your on meds the less likely you are to recover.
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