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Alternative Hypothesis and treatments of schizophrenia

Postby Razael » Fri Dec 07, 2012 4:06 am

Please post any other ideas for other alternatives.

It seems the psychiatrists and front groups only believe and are ignorant to anything else then the propaganda they receive from drug industries, including ghost writing and prominent figures in the "science" being paid substantial endorsements and conflicts of interest in the integrity of most information in education of mental health professionals including study into alternatives to conventional drugs. Some quacks would probably try to make such statements out to be delusion however, they just covering their own arses and promoting their own sense of purpose as a treating physician.

I have recently come across a new theory called kynurenic acid hypothesis http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17573079 that incorporates the NMDA receptor affinity to imbalance and dopamine rises in parts of the brain associated to psychosis with the presence of kynurenic acid that works as an NMDA antagonist, meaning NMDA antagonism is responsible for over-activity of dopamine. I'm no expert on the details including glycine receptors in the brain and use of sarcosine and similar compounds that are in development as novel treatments that work on glycine levels in the brain. whatever novel really means except that it isn;t gonna have the power of patentable compounds that do exactly the same thing to make drug industries heaps of money to market these compounds to psychiatrist and the world at large [as long as they don;t threaten existing treatments perhaps].

Some other possibility=ies that have shown promise in preliminary studies;

Pregnenolone - came across some evidence that this is an option, is a neurohormone kind of thing and helps with cognitive and memory problems at least, some say helps with prominant symptoms of schizophrenia.

N-Acetyl Cysteine - has been shown to help with free radical theory, also helps liver and can;t see problem with helping our body deal with existing "medications"..

I guess You have to do your own research as my memory retention isn;t as good anymore to recall all the information about these, sorry I don;t have links to studies and evidence.

On my first dose of Glycine, and am expecting some sarcosine in the mail that might actually prove effecctive on treating the side effects of antipsychotics or help the brain find balance, I'm sure this NMDA receptor is mysterious for its governing of other chemical actions in the brain, neuroscience is still in its early days, unfortunately the industry is still dominated by pharmaceutical industries so people doing studies on sarcosine etc were probably inhibited by their ties to financial incentives, as if a natural amino acid replaced conventional antipsychotics the drug industries will have a problem so they trial them as adjuncts.

Only time will tell if these possibilities for treatments of schizophrenia be applied in cost saving manner to health systems around the western world.


Brahmyadiyoga is another avenue of research, based on ayurvedic principles and herbs used for mental illness since 1000BC...One study showed it comparable to Chlorpromazine but skewed data favored antipsychotic group apparently. Some studies done on "Mentat" although I don;t have the links, some patients were withdrawn off their antipsychotic and put on the ayurvedic formula and remained stable.
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Re: Alternative Hypothesis and treatments of schizophrenia

Postby Razael » Fri Dec 07, 2012 4:29 am

actually feel pretty chill on glycine 5grams would definately help with sleep problems that psychiatrists fail to see as a contributing factor in treatments that are effective and less invasive...interesting it is recommended to put glycine under the tongue to recover from stroke, perhaps has implications into neuroplacticity I heard at least one report of people feeling like they were from before any mental health issues from sarcosine in very small doses [they recommend 3grams a day but that might be overkill for a lot of people, then again some may not find relief from it there is always that possibility]

can't remember what else I was going to say
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Re: Alternative Hypothesis and treatments of schizophrenia

Postby Razael » Fri Dec 07, 2012 4:49 am

in rodent models sarcosine or glycine showed antipsychotic profile... Interesting how pathetic scholarary articles are on the studies of the alternative or adjunct..Like it is well known that those on antipsychotic clozaril will find no benefit from glycine and nmda stuff because the drug already acts on those receptors somehow. scholarary articles has a study on this antipsychotic, it seems pointless they should be trying it on first episode psychotics and treat them with the attitude that they will recover I could guarantee they will see results with greater compliance as for less side-effects and positive effect on mood, that's how it works on negative symptoms that breed isolation, and isolation can do some funny things to a high dopamine individual striving for spiritual excellence that may appose the consensus norm for human potential, its all possibility but I get deemed deluded to consider my meaning in life is to find ascension and I endevour to seek wisdom from eastern philosophy and alchemy, this all sounds deluded to an ignorant twat in an ER when youre chronically sleep deprived and suffering panic attacks and chronic night sweats.

Did I just go on a tangent, psychiatrists make me go on tangents cos I stop to address what I have determined as a possible frame of mind the psychiatrist is in to address a point that may bring the bias out of the wood-work...working with ignorant twats with delusions about mental health and medications is infuriating, they need to wake up a bit...A psychotic can see it, even from personal experience that I'm lucky to remember how sensitive I was to symbolism in the social fabric and identifying things like the media as a power for herding sheep, they all seem to follow it, I see greater fulfillment in spiritual pursuits, some pursuits lead to transcendence and facing personal demons in symbolic form, perhaps over-activity of day-dreaming and with sleep deprivation detachment of ownership as the dreams take on their own form [not like authentic hallucinations]

even self hypnotic states, maybe I see that this is not schizophrenia yet I describe what it is in terms that could unravel methods for treatment that are non invasive, talk therapy and being treated with respect is a causiatative factor..
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Re: Alternative Hypothesis and treatments of schizophrenia

Postby Razael » Fri Dec 07, 2012 5:23 am

I did spew but that might be L-Dopa from Mucuna Pruriens extract I use to feel good, or the glycine makes the stomach a bit more sensitive... I also drank 2 JimBeam Black premixers 6percent alchohol...have been a little sensitive to alcohol from herbal use.

I also use rhodiola for protection from chemical damage of the "medicine" and to boost neurotransmitters plus it is indicated for tardive conditions and works like and anti-cholergenic.

I'm pretty sure the combination made me puke, sorry to talk about puking, and sorry if my apology just drew attention to my thought forms regarding social norms and not wanting to distress anyone with "off" topics......Pretty sure my old habit of perfectionism isn;t considered schizotypal or schizophrenic, when I got dopamine the world is my oister, I see so many potentials and possability to goal orient toward, this unfortunately comes across sometimes as grandeur and thus not seen as a risk of antipsychotic use to be derailed from leading the life you want, and they tell you its part of the illness from my experience it is the meds that make life $#%^ with no interest in old hobbies etc...something to resent if I go without antipsychotics and the resentment could trigger repressed emotional states relating to past psychosis and cause a flashback, plus hospital is pretty traumatic for some plus the trauma of dealing with a socially engineered fabric and mindset of the group unconscious, a psychotic person see's all the details and maybe with loss of vital essence of being under stress some errors and imbalance in the entire system may occur [but my intellect isn;t respected by treatment, that's why I'm here its like a vent and nobody untill I spoke to a lawyer specializing in mental health act would actually listen to me and take some time to hear all the alternitives to diagnosis and treatment plus listening to my insight and maybe I get lucky and get some freedom to be who I want to be, not what is determined by the prognosis of a schizophrenic on antipsychotics [and herbs that I've chosen for my own welfare].
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Re: Alternative Hypothesis and treatments of schizophrenia

Postby Razael » Sat Dec 08, 2012 3:09 am

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Re: Alternative Hypothesis and treatments of schizophrenia

Postby Razael » Sat Dec 08, 2012 3:45 am

from one day of glycine, I had about 10grams and my skills on the viola and guitarr returned to some extent, at least my direction and wanting to regain skills that left me from antipsychotic [again not seen as a risk] ..I used to improvise tunes but antipsychotics had taken away my spontaneity and creativity that I just repeated the same patterns and had zero ability...glycine has seemed to help with some of this
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Re: Alternative Hypothesis and treatments of schizophrenia

Postby Razael » Sat Dec 08, 2012 4:45 am

Sorry Pregnenolone is a neurosteriod, has implications to neurogenisis

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Sorry Pregnenolone is a neurosteriod, has implications to neurogenisis
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Re: Alternative Hypothesis and treatments of schizophrenia

Postby Mr Metal » Mon Dec 24, 2012 2:02 am

Look no further than orthomolecular.org

Science based nutrition for schizophrenia since the '50s

Start reading Abram Hoffer. He makes a whole lot of sense
I also reccomend dr Carl Pfeiffer who really made a difference in diagnosis
Sanity provided by orthomolecular protocol:

3 g Niacinamide
400 mg Pyrodoxin
100 mg Pyridoxal-5-phosphate
2 g L-methionine
B-100 complex
200 mcg Selenium
600 mg Calcium
300 mg Magnesium
50 mg Zinc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fHhBpuHSNc
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