Real or unreal

So from my personal experience, I'd say my 'delusions' were very real. But they made me delusional, the voices tricked me and made me look 'crazy' to others. Yet I know it was all real, it's hard to explain.

So I'm asking what others make of their experiences?
Do you think you are I'll?
Do you think it's all in your 'mentally ill' mind?
Do you hope you are 'mentally ill' as that's easier to face than the possibility it's all real?
I think you get the picture.

I'm not ill, I am just me and my reality is real to me, that's the way I see it. And 'normal' shouldn't even be in the dictionary.

It's real.

I think it takes an intelligent and brave mind to be able to stand its ground and admit that what they're going through is the result of something that most people would call supernatural. It's impossible for most anyone else to believe because they haven't experienced it. I'm not over here hallucinating, I'm having these "delusions" where these exquisite "coincidences" occur. Except I can tell they're not coincidences. Everyone around me is being manipulated by something that's not human. God, I think.

Anyways, that's the truth brotha.

All I want to know is why we were chosen.

Some see it as a curse, as I did for years till I understood. Now I see it as a gift and maybe I am still delusional to others, yet I feel as though I am blessed now. I came back on this forum after quite some time as I don't talk about my experiences openly anymore, yet here it's different, no docs telling me I'm delusional. Also because I'm now functioning like any 'normal' person and thought maybe I could help others.

If I am still 'delusional' I don't care because I'm happy. Maybe my change in attitude is the big difference. I like to believe I'm 'special' I believe in God now and as to why I was chosen I think I asked for it, in the sense I questioned even hated the almighty. So He showed me.

People are scared of the unknown and what is different if you don't adhere to social norms then you are in danger of being outcast and discriminated against.

TDQ wrote:Some see it as a curse, as I did for years till I understood. Now I see it as a gift and maybe I am still delusional to others, yet I feel as though I am blessed now. I came back on this forum after quite some time as I don't talk about my experiences openly anymore, yet here it's different, no docs telling me I'm delusional. Also because I'm now functioning like any 'normal' person and thought maybe I could help others.

If I am still 'delusional' I don't care because I'm happy. Maybe my change in attitude is the big difference. I like to believe I'm 'special' I believe in God now and as to why I was chosen I think I asked for it, in the sense I questioned even hated the almighty. So He showed me.

People are scared of the unknown and what is different if you don't adhere to social norms then you are in danger of being outcast and discriminated against.

I don't think God would do that to you. Would he make James Holmes think he was the Joker and tell him to go kill a ton of people? If God was telling a person things like that then he would know exactly how that person would react. He has no need to judge us and if God wanted to kill a ton of people in a theater he could make them all drop dead.

However, if God exists then it's possible that something else does also and what if that something else is the bad voice in a person's head?

for me if i were to use my rationale, i'd rather not believe its real, because i'm just looking for signs and coincidences... that's just not how my brain works... i don't go around looking for signs... i'd rather find someone who can tell me that they know me, and just talk about things... and everything...

after 10 years... going through this so called disease i'm tired of looking for signs, i want to chat with someone tangible someone who actually knows me.

but the thing is my delusions in particular are very interesting, so even though all i get is signs... i still find them highly entertaining, like past few days i've been erasing peoples memories all over the place...

and i'm some kind of psychic god can erase peoples memories, have telepathy, have mind-reading, mind-control and such... so i have a grand time with my delusions... and i find things boring if i'm not delusional... i can also get rid of the voices anytime i want now... i just snap my fingers and they're all gone... but i can also have conversations with people in my head... and they expand my vocabulary too... which some people find so crucial... no idea why...

but in all honesty i'm just sick of signs... i'd rather chat with someone... but since i've never found anyone who knows anything about me... i'd rather think i'm delusional

A gift?

For me, this is living hell. I don't know what or who to believe, I feel constantly lied to by everyone, I feel scared much of the time and I've done things to myself that I see no reason for, retrospectively.

I was told to cut off my toe because it didn't belong to me, and I lost my job as a result. Where is the gift?

And some days I feel uniquely special, like I can control the sun and the rain. But then I feel chased by the people that tell me I'm crazy, and by the people in my head that have ruined my life. I hate this.

Life here is a test I believe. Polar opposites good vs evil are ultimately dictating I believe. Lucifer was banished here for testing God now he tests is and tries to turn us against God. The fallen angel and his crew don't have long left here I believe and I think they trick us a lot of the time and pull us in the wrong direction.

TDQ wrote:Life here is a test I believe. Polar opposites good vs evil are ultimately dictating I believe. Lucifer was banished here for testing God now he tests is and tries to turn us against God. The fallen angel and his crew don't have long left here I believe and I think they trick us a lot of the time and pull us in the wrong direction.

i appreciate your honesty... i too had my battles with the devil... and really strange things i don't know what to call... i have no idea what's going through my head... all i know is that its really strange... i guess your perspective makes sense too...

Temptation is always there. Live to the best of your abilities and keep faith, don't lose hope and find inner peace.

I love this...



Professor : You are a Christian, aren’t you, son ?

Student : Yes, sir.

Professor: So, you believe in GOD ?

Student : Absolutely, sir.

Professor : Is GOD good ?

Student : Sure.

Professor: Is GOD all powerful ?

Student : Yes.

Professor: My brother died of cancer even though he prayed to GOD to heal him. Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But GOD didn’t. How is this GOD good then? Hmm?

(Student was silent.)

Professor: You can’t answer, can you ? Let’s start again, young fella. Is GOD good?

Student : Yes.

Professor: Is satan good ?

Student : No.

Professor: Where does satan come from ?

Student : From … GOD …

Professor: That’s right. Tell me son, is there evil in this world?

Student : Yes.

Professor: Evil is everywhere, isn’t it ? And GOD did make everything. Correct?

Student : Yes.

Professor: So who created evil ?

(Student did not answer.)

Professor: Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things exist in the world, don’t they?

Student : Yes, sir.

Professor: So, who created them ?

(Student had no answer.)

Professor: Science says you have 5 Senses you use to identify and observe the world around you. Tell me, son, have you ever seen GOD?

Student : No, sir.

Professor: Tell us if you have ever heard your GOD?

Student : No , sir.

Professor: Have you ever felt your GOD, tasted your GOD, smelt your GOD? Have you ever had any sensory perception of GOD for that matter?

Student : No, sir. I’m afraid I haven’t.

Professor: Yet you still believe in Him?

Student : Yes.

Professor : According to Empirical, Testable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says your GOD doesn’t exist. What do you say to that, son?

Student : Nothing. I only have my faith.

Professor: Yes, faith. And that is the problem Science has.

Student : Professor, is there such a thing as heat?

Professor: Yes.

Student : And is there such a thing as cold?

Professor: Yes.

Student : No, sir. There isn’t.

(The lecture theater became very quiet with this turn of events.)

Student : Sir, you can have lots of heat, even more heat, superheat, mega heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat. But we don’t have anything called cold. We can hit 458 degrees below zero which is no heat, but we can’t go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold. Cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it.

(There was pin-drop silence in the lecture theater.)

Student : What about darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as darkness?

Professor: Yes. What is night if there isn’t darkness?

Student : You’re wrong again, sir. Darkness is the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light. But if you have no light constantly, you have nothing and its called darkness, isn’t it? In reality, darkness isn’t. If it is, well you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn’t you?

Professor: So what is the point you are making, young man ?

Student : Sir, my point is your philosophical premise is flawed.

Professor: Flawed ? Can you explain how?

Student : Sir, you are working on the premise of duality. You argue there is life and then there is death, a good GOD and a bad GOD. You are viewing the concept of GOD as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, Science can’t even explain a thought. It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one. To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing.

Death is not the opposite of life: just the absence of it. Now tell me, Professor, do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey?

Professor: If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, yes, of course, I do.

Student : Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?

(The Professor shook his head with a smile, beginning to realize where the argument was going.)

Student : Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor. Are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you not a scientist but a preacher?

(The class was in uproar.)

Student : Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the Professor’s brain?

(The class broke out into laughter. )

Student : Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor’s brain, felt it, touched or smelt it? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established Rules of Empirical, Stable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says that you have no brain, sir. With all due respect, sir, how do we then trust your lectures, sir?

(The room was silent. The Professor stared at the student, his face unfathomable.)

Professor: I guess you’ll have to take them on faith, son.

Student : That is it sir … Exactly ! The link between man & GOD is FAITH. That is all that keeps things alive and moving.

P.S.

I believe you have enjoyed the conversation. And if so, you’ll probably want your friends / colleagues to enjoy the same, won’t you?

Forward this to increase their knowledge … or FAITH.

By the way, that student was EINSTEIN.

I must say myself, it was a splended debate I ever heared. Eye opener for everyone!