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Is it AS or SPD - The difference between them.

Postby anasthasia » Tue Aug 18, 2009 4:05 pm

I see many people are confused about Schizoid and Aspergers.

So, I'm gonna to add some difference from the link:
asperger-syndrome/topic36592.html

What is the difference between Schizoid Personality Disorder and Asperger's Syndrome?

There are some core differences between AS and SPD, the biggest one being that AS is a form of autism while SPD isn't. We could say that AS is a person with a differently wired brain, but that a person with SPD has a "neurotypical" brain that just happened to develop a peculiar personality of extreme introversion and emotional detachment.
People with SPD don't have many of the "autistic" characteristics of AS, like the strong preference for logical patterns in things and people, a natural interest for numbers and other logic related things, the inability to read facial expressions and the lack of innate knowledge that other people aren't rule based and have motivations that might be different than the person with AS.
SPD is more about never-ending introspection, rationalisation and hyperreflection about pretty much everything. People with SPD have an extremely rich internal world that only rarely surface, and from the outside, people with SPD seem to be completely aloof and detached; but they are in no way autistic. It's just that they rationnalise and internalise everything, but their understanding of the world around them is completely unaffected. They can participate in discussions normally, can get along with people like anybody, but are very unlikely to participate in them by themselves if they don't have to and will almost always prefer to be alone. They do have a strong tendency to be perpetually daydreaming if left idle and are likely to think about fantasy and fictious worlds much more than "normal" people would.

People with SPD may be socially inept due to lack of practice and lack of motivation. They are withdrawn because it makes life easier, because they do not gain a great deal of happiness from getting close to people.
People with AS have an inability to understand social cues. I would say they are withdrawn when they are engrossed in their particular fascination.
People with Schizoid personality disorder are not diagnosed and treated because, they are unlikely to seek medical help and if they do so that doctor or psychiatrist will find it difficult to see how the patient can be helped.
Mostly though people who suffer from Asperger are mentally unable to read the emotional states of other people, while people who suffer from Schizoid Personality Disorder can have an excellent understanding of other people's emotions but don't care about them or don't seem them as being relevant.

People with Asperger's have developmental problems, and it poses a lot of social issues, such as inability to pick up on social cues. It's basically a mild form of autism. They usually have limited interests, and like having constant routines that they follow.


Hope this will help some people realize wheather they have AS or SPD.
Hope it'll help.
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Re: Is it AS or SPD - The difference between them.

Postby Cirvante » Wed Aug 19, 2009 10:08 am

Very good post. That sums it up pretty well.
"Man is by nature a social animal; an individual who is unsocial naturally and not accidentally is either beneath our notice or more than human. (...) Anyone who (...) does not partake of society is either a beast or a god."
— Aristotle, Politics
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Re: Is it AS or SPD - The difference between them.

Postby Eric_Lee » Thu Aug 20, 2009 7:58 am

This should be made a sticky. Far to much confusion between the two.
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Re: Is it AS or SPD - The difference between them.

Postby shroom » Mon Aug 24, 2009 4:04 pm

Strange, I kinda recognize myself in the SPD in what you said.
But I like being with my friends, seeing them and talking with them.
I also have other stuff that are not included in SPD...
I don't know if the fact that I sometimes don't know what to do is due to SPD, and avoid eye contact, don't really look to people I speak to, need to structure, shyness and so on.

I don't know. I have to "investigate" :wink:
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Re: Is it AS or SPD - The difference between them.

Postby anasthasia » Mon Aug 24, 2009 4:12 pm

Based on what you've said you are more AS.
Maybe you should see my post if ASD is copying symptoms of other disorders or vice versa.
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Re: Is it AS or SPD - The difference between them.

Postby shroom » Mon Aug 24, 2009 4:26 pm

OK, I'm gonna read that.
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Re: Is it AS or SPD - The difference between them.

Postby shroom » Mon Aug 24, 2009 4:49 pm

The point is, I don't remember having all the symptoms during childhood, and nothing made my mom wonder if there was something strange with me.
I was just shy, daydreaming, easily distracted, losing stuff, being messy, quiet, a bit of math geek and drawing geek, stuff like this.
No dyspraxia or hyperlexia, or at least nothing really noticable. I was quite good with my hands. And my social life at that time was quite good, with friends, and other kids I got along with, though I guess I was sometimes awkward and too naive, it was quite easy to influence me.
So my childhood doesn't really fit with AS.
If there is a super mild form of AS, with good coping capacities, then maybe, yeah. :lol: :lol: :lol:
I don't know. I really have to be more specific next time I talk about this with my family. But as I said, maybe I'm just sharing some traits, as my sister does have some AS symptoms too.
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Re: Is it AS or SPD - The difference between them.

Postby Rahil627 » Mon Nov 18, 2013 5:12 pm

I was feeling down recently, then I saw some ted talk by a genius with AS, which triggered a little self-analysis, which led me here.

Thanks for making it so clear. SPD it is. Does that mean I can't be a genius? :(
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Re: Is it AS or SPD - The difference between them.

Postby nprkntlny » Tue Nov 19, 2013 12:26 pm

anasthasia wrote:It's basically a mild form of autism.

Aspergers is not a mild form of autism. It varies in severity.
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Re: Is it AS or SPD - The difference between them.

Postby EtherealStarlight » Tue Nov 19, 2013 4:59 pm

i'd add the talkativeness level to the list. an aspie can passionately give you a whole lecture about their favorite subject for fifteen minutes straight if you ask them about it, while schizoids never seem to have much to say and it's difficult to get them to say more than a couple sentences.

good post though, that sums it up pretty well.
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