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Re: My HPD experience

Postby Imfreakedout » Sat Feb 18, 2012 3:00 am

xdude wrote:
Imfreakedout wrote:I like this. Perfect analogy of the person Im STILL dealing with. The girl im dealing with has no clue how serious her actions are.


One of the things I didn't understand long ago was reading comments from psychologists like 'is likely to know more about what is going in the life x, y, z person on TV than friends/family in real life; is likely to watch a lot TV series; and so on. That was true of the woman I met. As we all know, fictional/fantasy life is more dramatic, more ideal, and certainly a lot safer than real life.

What I didn't get for a long time was that while some people withdraw into fantasy/fiction it's obvious when they do, in great part because they tend not to socialize except maybe online where it's safe. But there is another way too.

To be very outgoing, interacting with others, yet to remain emotionally in a safe/dramatic/idealized mental state where what's out there is the fantasy/fictional world. And a person like that can be very successful with others. Many of us love watching/reading some fiction/fantasy because the people act larger than life, we love the drama, and all of our attention is focused on the act, and sometimes the actors. Of course actors can be all of that because it's entirely safe - there is no real consequences in fantasy land. In real life it's less safe, unless someone has a mental blind spot when it comes to perceiving the consequences to themselves and others. We end up so confused because the thought that the person we're dealing with doesn't perceive themselves, us or the rest of the world in the same way we do never enters our mind. We try to make sense of each other based on a basic assumption that the person we're talking with perceives the world in more or less the same way we do.

At some point I started to see it. She lives out there, in the real world, except she really doesn't. But she lives out there because she was successful at it. At getting attention, for all the reasons actors in fiction do, and perhaps the real reason, by keeping the attention level turned up to 110%, avoids having to listen to more painful feelings emanating from inside. I came to see that she lived like that for so long that she really believed that the persona/role she was playing moment to moment was herself.



xdude are you sure were not talking about the same person LOL? This girl I was with is obssessed with the Kardashians and Jersy Shore. Her personality seems like a combination of the Kardashian sisters, Snookie and Deena. This is how she lives her life. The attitude, hair, make-up, fake bake, partying ect. I was discussing the latest thing she has done to me with a friend and he was saying how she doesnt realize the consequences of her actions toward me. I really dont think she has a clue what she is doing and how she looks toward other people. She has done some wierd stuff during our realationship that freaked me out and what you say makes perfect sense to me. I always thought she was "living" her own reality tv show thats why its funny to me you used that anology. Another thing I should mention shes a facebook whore....on it all the time. Uses multiple accounts too.
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Re: My HPD experience

Postby xdude » Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:05 am

Imfreakedout -

LOL, she watched different shows, but perhaps it's a semi-common trait among those with HPD?

The influence on her from watching fiction was emotionally far stronger than her reactions to real people. At times it seemed like she had little personality of her own, and that it mostly came from outside. As I got to know her better she did start to show some core personality, but it was tough as that could vanish in a moment given some outside influence. I guess that's what is meant by easily suggestible.

From another point of view it's all pretty sad too. It seems like she found away to hide from herself (and her true self from others) by living in a mental world where life is just a stage and she the key actor.
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Re: My HPD experience

Postby r2d2 » Sat Feb 18, 2012 8:18 pm

you people have described an old flame of mine. she was EXACTLY as you described it.
and now, im unfortunately gonna have a baby with here. she sent me a textmessage in october, not long after we were in bed. and now.. it's on the way.
i got hoovered back and now there's a bond between us for life because of my naivity!
she's gonna have the kid for years with me just having it at my home every other weekend and meeting it 1 weekly wednesday or thursday.

i hate her but at the same time, it's my fault. sometimes she makes it appear that she wants us back together, sometimes she is absolutely impossible and that the baby is "her's only".
lately it's only been the last one showing. she wanted a baby with me for 2 reasons:
1) she would bond us together forever.
2) she would'nt have to think about getting a job or extra education for at least a couple of years.
yes, she a moocher, big time, and guess whos paying the next 18 years??
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Re: My HPD experience

Postby Imfreakedout » Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:00 pm

xdude wrote:Imfreakedout -

LOL, she watched different shows, but perhaps it's a semi-common trait among those with HPD?

The influence on her from watching fiction was emotionally far stronger than her reactions to real people. At times it seemed like she had little personality of her own, and that it mostly came from outside. As I got to know her better she did start to show some core personality, but it was tough as that could vanish in a moment given some outside influence. I guess that's what is meant by easily suggestible.

From another point of view it's all pretty sad too. It seems like she found away to hide from herself (and her true self from others) by living in a mental world where life is just a stage and she the key actor.



I think its pretty sad too that the girl I was with can never really show her true self. I know shes in alot of pain about her lifes experiences and I know that I was good to her the whole time we were together. She would let me in sometimes but not always. Sometimes I feel bad that I ended it with her but I know its the best thing for me (is that selfish?). But the things she did to me after I ended it are unforgivable. I dont hate her but Im just so dissapointed in her actions. I know NC is the best way to go but at the same time I miss her too. Kind of sucks that I can never speak to her again but I dont want to get sucked back in and ruin what I have repaired.

-- Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:04 pm --

r2d2 wrote:you people have described an old flame of mine. she was EXACTLY as you described it.
and now, im unfortunately gonna have a baby with here. she sent me a textmessage in october, not long after we were in bed. and now.. it's on the way.
i got hoovered back and now there's a bond between us for life because of my naivity!
she's gonna have the kid for years with me just having it at my home every other weekend and meeting it 1 weekly wednesday or thursday.

i hate her but at the same time, it's my fault. sometimes she makes it appear that she wants us back together, sometimes she is absolutely impossible and that the baby is "her's only".
lately it's only been the last one showing. she wanted a baby with me for 2 reasons:
1) she would bond us together forever.
2) she would'nt have to think about getting a job or extra education for at least a couple of years.
yes, she a moocher, big time, and guess whos paying the next 18 years??



Sorry to hear what you are going through. A baby is a blessing though so dont feel too bad. The girl that I was with has the potential to do the same to me thats why even though I miss her and would like to speak with her again I wont. She knows all my bottons and I know that I would end up in the same boat your in.
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Re: My HPD experience

Postby xdude » Sat Feb 25, 2012 1:49 pm

Imfreakedout wrote:I think its pretty sad too that the girl I was with can never really show her true self. I know shes in alot of pain about her lifes experiences and I know that I was good to her the whole time we were together. She would let me in sometimes but not always. Sometimes I feel bad that I ended it with her but I know its the best thing for me (is that selfish?). But the things she did to me after I ended it are unforgivable. I dont hate her but Im just so dissapointed in her actions. I know NC is the best way to go but at the same time I miss her too. Kind of sucks that I can never speak to her again but I dont want to get sucked back in and ruin what I have repaired.


You know I agree that odds are she really did feel something. Problem is someone with HPD is emotionally torn. While they do seem to want the close one on one relationship, it comes with painful emotions they flee from. The other side of their coin is free of pain, lots of attention from others, a good time, emotionally it strokes their ego to be pursued by others, etc. So yes, she might well have really loved you, but until/if she can break the cycle you'd just end up hurt in her push/pull cycle over and over again.

For whatever it's worth, if she is HPD, there is nothing you could have done. No matter how good you were to her it wouldn't have mattered. From that point of view, take some solace in knowing that you couldn't have 'won' (whatever that means) - it was a no win situation for you and not just for you, but for the next guys she meets as well.
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Re: My HPD experience

Postby mercury76 » Mon Feb 27, 2012 5:31 am

r2d2 wrote:you people have described an old flame of mine. she was EXACTLY as you described it.
and now, im unfortunately gonna have a baby with here. she sent me a textmessage in october, not long after we were in bed. and now.. it's on the way.
i got hoovered back and now there's a bond between us for life because of my naivity!
she's gonna have the kid for years with me just having it at my home every other weekend and meeting it 1 weekly wednesday or thursday.

i hate her but at the same time, it's my fault. sometimes she makes it appear that she wants us back together, sometimes she is absolutely impossible and that the baby is "her's only".
lately it's only been the last one showing. she wanted a baby with me for 2 reasons:
1) she would bond us together forever.
2) she would'nt have to think about getting a job or extra education for at least a couple of years.
yes, she a moocher, big time, and guess whos paying the next 18 years??


It may sound overly cynical, but I would be skeptical about the truth to the baby story... or claim that it's yours. Many women will play that card in order to keep you around.. And with women who've got what's referred to as a 'schizotype' category disorder like HPD... there's a good chance that if she IS pregnant, there's many possible fathers. It's sad I know, and there's no gentle way to ask for proof.. but I'd highly recommend doing so. You have a right to KNOW.
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