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How much of a looser am I?

Postby mrquestion » Wed Dec 02, 2009 5:05 am

hello, I am 17 and I know this girl for around 4 years now, we met in school and we have been kind of a distant friends ever since until around 5 months ago. We started talking over the internet, and even tho I have her cell phone we speak through messenger programs since she prefers it that way... I'm indifferent about which method of communication we use as long as we use any. Ever since we started talking she told me she had a boyfriend which at the time I did not care since we were friends anyways but it ended up being a lie so I was asking myself why she would tell me she has a friend when she doesn't and I guessed that she kind of liked me and I do like her. We kept talking for about 1 more month and she told me about this guy who she started going out with and this one seemed to be real... later she told me they broke up and she started talking to me about how she loved him and how she misses him ( i was surprised since they probably went out for around 2 weeks only), she started saying she was depressed and that she wanted to go back with him (he was the one who ended the relationship and I started to wonder why). Ever since I have been comforting her and she still haven't get over that 2 weeks-long relationship... she doesn't talk about it as often but still does... I honestly would like to go out with her some time but one of us has to have a problem and I am really confused about it. She barely talks to me and I have to start most of the conversations with her and when I actually start talking to her, her responses are ridiculously small, I have tried talking to her about everything and nothing seems to call on her interest... she is constantly saying that she is bored and no matter what I say she is still bored since she is not interested about anything (has been like that even before her 2 weeks boyfriend). I figured that it has to be me that she just does not like to talk to me so I have try to stop talking to her and after a little while she comes at me at school or writes me something saying that if I have forgotten about her and starts talking to me and when I think it is all going to be better I find myself back in square one. I have tried to talk to her about pretty much everything u can think of, sports, dancing, food, space, earth, nature, religion, hair, shopping, movies, internet, economics, math, video games, sexuality, art, relationships.... I just don't know whats left and I cant get her interested in anything. The only progress I have been able to make is making her stop saying "what ever" at least when she is around me. Another thing is that when I am at school I always try to talk to her and be close to her and there she talks a little more but about the same thing "I'm bored, I'm bored" she pretty much repeats it over and over again which makes me think I must be a really boring person. When I compliment her about her look or something (which she is not a model or anything like that, as a matter of fact there are many guys who would not even consider going out with her), she just laughs or says OK and never tells me anything back (I have never heard any compliment from her even though I have heard from her friends that she kind of likes me). Also, sometimes, actually most of the times she walks past me when I am standing some where at school, she pretends she did not see me and walks past me... I remember once I was sitting on the grass and she walks past me and I was pretty much the only thing standing there so I was 100% sure she had seemed me plus I stared straight at her eyes during the whole time and she did not looked at me once even tho she passed around 1 meter from me in the middle of no where, then when she was coming back, she did the same thing but this time a friend of mine who was now close to where I was called on her friend and I could see her trying to hurry so that her friend didn't come to where we were standing and when her friend finally did come she staid away, as if being near me when around a group of people was uncomfortable. That very same day I called her and talked about what had happened and she apologized and said she was sorry that she was an idiot and said it was not going to happen again (she now at least looks at me when she knows she just cant get away with "I didn't see you" but still walks by when there are many people around but I still know she sees me every time since I am pretty tall and unlike most guys I have pretty long hair which makes me hard to miss on a crowd).

This is got me really confused because now I do not know either it is her that is got the issue or she is extremely shy or I just have no clue of how to talk to a girl or she just doesn't like me at all and puts me aside until she doesn't have anybody else to talk to. Please, I would greatly appreciate any advice about what to do with her or what to stop doing or just anything you want to say, you can call me idiot if you feel you have to...

ps: she is 17 too, kind of skinny (must weight around 98 pounds) and probably 5-2 in height.
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Re: How much of a looser am I?

Postby Greatsharkbite » Wed Dec 02, 2009 11:20 pm

I don't think you're a loser, it just sounds like she's really not all that into you. I honestly don't know why you'd want to get with her anyway. She doesn't sound fun, she doesn't sound that cute (by your own admission here) she doesn't make for good conversation, she doesn't sound that intelligent.. Etc

First off, a guy complimenting a girl on looks friend or not, obviously want to get with her. Its not a friend thing to do and every other guy does it--you wanting her just because she doesn't look like a model isn't that special. Don't compliment anyone on looks, your methodology sounds like you're treating her as someone you like as opposed to a friend anyway. Rule of thumb with friendships of the opposite sex: Treat them as you would anyone you aren't dating. I don't give my mom random compliments on her looks, plus from a person you're not in a relationship with, its creepy or makes you feel weird if you're in a relationship or interested in someone else. I have a girlfriend and its frustrating if girls flirt with me or cross a line. They're nice, they're pretty, they aren't for me. Girls giving me a valentines day card I.E. no thanks.

Second, if you're trying to get with a girl.. ask her out. Don't beat around the bush, don't wait for other guys to sleep with her (Ew), don't wait until you get into your comfort zone. Just ask, now is it possible you will get rejected? Yep. Is it as bad as it sounds? No. If it is that bad, you might be putting too much into it.

If you go to school together, observe how she interacts with other people. If she's shy around them, she's shy. If she's only "shy" around you, she's avoidant. I mean there is really only one way to find out things--ask.

If you're that worried about whether or not she sees you, time to either ask her out or find some other girls to talk to--or both. She's just one person and you aren't even with her--doesn't seem like that big a deal if she approaches you or not everytime. Thats something reserved for someone more special.
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Re: How much of a looser am I?

Postby Psychology 76 » Wed Dec 02, 2009 11:57 pm

You are not a loser at all. There just isn't a connection between you two. My opinion is that it is mostly her being boring not you. You can't please everyone so I would just be content that you tried and move on to someone else. :)
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Re: How much of a looser am I?

Postby mrquestion » Thu Dec 03, 2009 1:17 am

thanks a lot for your opinions guys that is pretty much what I have been doing since a few weeks ago now... other opinions are welcomed tho :D
By the way, now that I think about it I don't really know why is it that I want to be with her... as a matter of fact there is not one reason... Jesus, whats wrong with me. It must be a nightmare to be in a relationship with her...and yes...shes like that with pretty much everyone.
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Re: How much of a looser am I?

Postby UK-SW » Fri Dec 04, 2009 9:19 pm

Maybe you'd have more luck with her on MSN if you used some punctuation? I hear all the cool kids are using paragraphs these days, you should try it.

I'm not sure what you want to go out with this girl...if she doesn't talk how do you know you have anything in common or would enjoy spending time with her? She's not much of a looker either so what is in it for you?

Maybe you think no-one else wants her so she'll be desperate to go out with someone and less likely to reject your advances if you made any? Maybe what is frustrating you is the fact that you don't know why she isn't falling over herself to ask you out after you've shown some interest?
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Re: How much of a looser am I?

Postby mrquestion » Fri Dec 04, 2009 10:58 pm

UK-SW thanks for your comment but it is rather inaccurate. I do not know if you noticed with what I have written that I have no problems using punctuation and as a matter of fact it kind of annoys me when people do not use them since they make very little sense.
As for why I would like to go out with her I really have no idea... the only thing I can think of is that she is a girl and I am a guy but I just noticed that I would not really like to go out with her anymore for this same problem, it must be painful to spend a lot of time with her.
And I do not think that no-one else wants her, if you read my first post it says "some guys", I can find plenty of others that would have no problems going out with her (judging by looks).
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