Is being evil a turnoff? Why can't I get a sex companion?

I am a nineteen year old male, and can't get sex except from prostitutes. I also can't make friends, and my Dad has suggested that it could be caused by me letting people know I do psychopathic stuff. All my female friends from high-school knew I would break into cars, I would go and steal from parties I was invited to. People know that I like to vandalize and destroy. During my high-school after prom I even got kicked out because I caused so much trouble. One of my closet female friends know that I lack the ability to feel guilt. Would these be reasons for people not wanting to become my friend or get intimate? I rented a prostitutes vagina so I could try out sex but I have never actually had a real girl want to kiss or have sex with me, I really want this.

Due to my Asperger's I realize that I can't actually go a nightclub or party to get a hookup like normal people do. My only option is meeting normal people and taking time to get to know them. By this time they know I am not NT. Social interactions are hard but my female friends don't mind me. I am just curious why I can never go beyond anything plantonic.

I've seen you posting in the Asperger's Syndrome forum.

For those who don't know, AutisticPsychopath's name indicates what he believes about himself - he thinks he's a psychopath who also has Asperger's Syndrome.

I'm going to level with you - I don't believe you have psychopathy, although I suspect you have been diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome. I am sure most people are thinking what I'm about to say - it's very obvious that you make claims about psychopathic behaviour for attention. You take every opportunity to list all of the stereotypical 'psychopath' things you do, and I don't believe that you do any of them. I believe that you are a teenage boy with Asperger's Syndrome who is trying to find some sense of identity or some form of self esteem in claiming to be a psychopath.

Now a key thing to note is that I also have Asperger's Syndrome, and your obsession with being seen as a psychopath is apparent even to me, which means everything I've just said about you is mind numbingly obvious to a neurotypical.

First we'll dispell a myth - a psychopath would not go around admitting to their crimes. In fact, a psychopath likely wouldn't own up to the things you admit to doing if they were discovered halfway through the act, and would usually have a million and one lies about what a normal, healthy and productive member of society they are. In short, it's very difficult to spot a psychopath, whereas spotting somebody who wants to be seen as a psychopath is very easy, and you are such a person.

Now, onto the issue at hand. As I mentioned, it's clear that you do have Asperger's Syndrome, and that you've begun to fall for that whole "women like bad boys" nonsense. In true AS fashion, you've taken this to an extreme that even a true psychopath would have the emotional intelligence to avoid, and begun proving you're a "bad boy" by telling women that you engage in psychopathic behaviour. This wouldn't turn on any woman, even those who are extremely emotionally disturbed - they immediately recognise what you're actually doing or, if they're unintelligent, believe you and think you're disgusting.

I don't think they believe you. If they did you'd have had a visit from the police long ago.

Ironically mimicking a real sociopath in some respects is what helped me defeat the type of ineptitude you're currently exhibiting - adopt a predatory mindset, watch and study and mimic those who are successful at dating, and then go after the woman you want with a solid comprehension of what women are receptive to (you'll immediately notice that nobody looking to pick a woman up for sex opens with 'Hey, you're pretty hot, I killed a hamster'), and once you've achieved this level of mastery then build your own unique way of doing it on this foundation. This worked for me, and as I believe absolutely that you are in no way a psychopath, I am confident that you'll not behave in a dangerous fashion once you establish a relationship.

ScienceAndCake wrote:I've seen you posting in the Asperger's Syndrome forum.

For those who don't know, AutisticPsychopath's name indicates what he believes about himself - he thinks he's a psychopath who also has Asperger's Syndrome.

I'm going to level with you - I don't believe you have psychopathy, although I suspect you have been diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome. I am sure most people are thinking what I'm about to say - it's very obvious that you make claims about psychopathic behaviour for attention. You take every opportunity to list all of the stereotypical 'psychopath' things you do, and I don't believe that you do any of them. I believe that you are a teenage boy with Asperger's Syndrome who is trying to find some sense of identity or some form of self esteem in claiming to be a psychopath.

Now a key thing to note is that I also have Asperger's Syndrome, and your obsession with being seen as a psychopath is apparent even to me, which means everything I've just said about you is mind numbingly obvious to a neurotypical.

First we'll dispell a myth - a psychopath would not go around admitting to their crimes. In fact, a psychopath likely wouldn't own up to the things you admit to doing if they were discovered halfway through the act, and would usually have a million and one lies about what a normal, healthy and productive member of society they are. In short, it's very difficult to spot a psychopath, whereas spotting somebody who wants to be seen as a psychopath is very easy, and you are such a person.

Now, onto the issue at hand. As I mentioned, it's clear that you do have Asperger's Syndrome, and that you've begun to fall for that whole "women like bad boys" nonsense. In true AS fashion, you've taken this to an extreme that even a true psychopath would have the emotional intelligence to avoid, and begun proving you're a "bad boy" by telling women that you engage in psychopathic behaviour. This wouldn't turn on any woman, even those who are extremely emotionally disturbed - they immediately recognise what you're actually doing or, if they're unintelligent, believe you and think you're disgusting.

I don't think they believe you. If they did you'd have had a visit from the police long ago.

Ironically mimicking a real sociopath in some respects is what helped me defeat the type of ineptitude you're currently exhibiting - adopt a predatory mindset, watch and study and mimic those who are successful at dating, and then go after the woman you want with a solid comprehension of what women are receptive to (you'll immediately notice that nobody looking to pick a woman up for sex opens with 'Hey, you're pretty hot, I killed a hamster'), and once you've achieved this level of mastery then build your own unique way of doing it on this foundation. This worked for me, and as I believe absolutely that you are in no way a psychopath, I am confident that you'll not behave in a dangerous fashion once you establish a relationship.

If you don't believe my post then there isn't any reason for you to continue replying further. It's funny, I didn't even say anything that bad such as how I have killed animals and you're so quick to dismiss of petty stuff such as stealing. I hope you are able to change your attitude if you do reply. I don't like being disrespected, called a liar, but I suspect you are female anyway so your opinion doesn't matter on this subject.

I haven't been diagnosed with anything. I did meet with a psychologist once, told her to diagnose me, she was unable to, and told me that I probably don't even have Asperger's. She was useless and seemed more concerned with the antisocial side rather than the autistic side which actually affects my daily life.

You said that women would "believe you and think you're disgusting", is this actually true? When I had sex with the prostitute I posted it to Twitter with a picture of me snorting cocaine off her ass. So literally every girl I would talk to knows this. My close female friend doesn't seem to bothered by it though, but that is maybe because we are just friends, she already knows that she wouldn't date me.

AutisticPsychopath wrote:If you don't believe my post then there isn't any reason for you to continue replying further.

Why do you think these two things are related? Sometimes the fact you don't believe someone can be more reason to reply.

AutisticPsychopath wrote:I don't like being disrespected, called a liar, but I suspect you are female anyway so your opinion doesn't matter on this subject.

Nice

AutisticPsychopath wrote:I haven't been diagnosed with anything. I did meet with a psychologist once, told her to diagnose me, she was unable to, and told me that I probably don't even have Asperger's.

You definitely have something, because your behaviour is clearly inhibiting you to the point where you can't cope at school or in normal social functioning, which is the very definition of illness. The fact you identify with Asperger's Syndrome is likely accurate - you do exhibit extremely below average social intelligence but at least normal if not above average reasoning capability.

AutisticPsychopath wrote:You said that women would "believe you and think you're disgusting", is this actually true? When I had sex with the prostitute I posted it to Twitter with a picture of me snorting cocaine off her ass. So literally every girl I would talk to knows this. My close female friend doesn't seem to bothered by it though, but that is maybe because we are just friends, she already knows that she wouldn't date me.

Yes. They would believe you and think you're disgusting.

It's a fairly well known fact that psychopaths, especially male psychopaths, enjoy uncharacteristic sexual success (Larsen & Buss, 2010 - Personality Psychology). However this isn't because women identify them as psychopaths, it's the complete opposite; they are expert at passing themselves off as non psychopaths. If they were open about the deranged nature of their thinking they'd enjoy the same 0% success rate you're enjoying.

You're painting quite a tragic picture of a kid who wants attention and is going about it the wrong way. I don't believe your claims about what you posted on twitter, but your thinking is just as wrong whether you did or didn't do it; the type of crime you're talking about is so petty and pissy that the police wouldn't even bother busting you for it if you did something like, say, post photographic evidence of it on the world's most popular blogging website. You're certainly not going to be impressing anyone with it.

You'll start attracting women when you start integrating into society instead of being a social pariah. That means getting your act together, getting a job and only breaking enough laws to make sure you're not boring the pants off everyone. Do try to drop the "I'm so edgy" act though, it has about the same social benefit to you as bathing in skunk funk would.

ScienceAndCake wrote:

AutisticPsychopath wrote:I haven't been diagnosed with anything. I did meet with a psychologist once, told her to diagnose me, she was unable to, and told me that I probably don't even have Asperger's.

You definitely have something, because your behaviour is clearly inhibiting you to the point where you can't cope at school or in normal social functioning, which is the very definition of illness. The fact you identify with Asperger's Syndrome is likely accurate - you do exhibit extremely below average social intelligence but at least normal if not above average reasoning capability.

AutisticPsychopath wrote:You said that women would "believe you and think you're disgusting", is this actually true? When I had sex with the prostitute I posted it to Twitter with a picture of me snorting cocaine off her ass. So literally every girl I would talk to knows this. My close female friend doesn't seem to bothered by it though, but that is maybe because we are just friends, she already knows that she wouldn't date me.

Yes. They would believe you and think you're disgusting.

It's a fairly well known fact that psychopaths, especially male psychopaths, enjoy uncharacteristic sexual success (Larsen & Buss, 2010 - Personality Psychology). However this isn't because women identify them as psychopaths, it's the complete opposite; they are expert at passing themselves off as non psychopaths. If they were open about the deranged nature of their thinking they'd enjoy the same 0% success rate you're enjoying.

You're painting quite a tragic picture of a kid who wants attention and is going about it the wrong way. I don't believe your claims about what you posted on twitter, but your thinking is just as wrong whether you did or didn't do it; the type of crime you're talking about is so petty and pissy that the police wouldn't even bother busting you for it if you did something like, say, post photographic evidence of it on the world's most popular blogging website. You're certainly not going to be impressing anyone with it.

You'll start attracting women when you start integrating into society instead of being a social pariah. That means getting your act together, getting a job and only breaking enough laws to make sure you're not boring the pants off everyone. Do try to drop the "I'm so edgy" act though, it has about the same social benefit to you as bathing in skunk funk would.

I agree that I have something, but the reason I haven't officially self-diagnosed myself with Asperger's is due to the comorbid antisocial traits, regardless of whether or not you believe it (you are sounding like a troll). By the way here is the picture I uploaded, http://s2.postimg.org/vb7e85g21/cocaine.jpg I don't know why that is suprising either. It is commonly accepted that male Aspies can't get sex for free or if they do they have to wait a really long time and often settle for something unnatractive. I didn't want to wait so at nineteen I decided to lose my virginity.

You said for me to attract women I need to get my act together, get a job, and not break laws. What does it mean to get my act together? Does that mean learning social skills? I already have a job and also can make money on my own. I still don't understand why breaking laws is bad. I don't tell that stuff to people I just meet, only after I have known her for a while and want to open up. I can see how stealing or breaking into cars would send a bad vibe. Would about vandalizing? Would that putoff people? From my understanding it generally seems that to build intimacy (which I have never done), that would need to be open and not present a fake personality.

AutisticPsychopath wrote:the type of crime you're talking about is so petty and pissy that the police wouldn't even bother busting you for it if you did something like, say, post photographic evidence of it on the world's most popular blogging website. You're certainly not going to be impressing anyone with it
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http://s2.postimg.org/vb7e85g21/cocaine.jpg

I couldn't have been more right.

AutisticPsychopath wrote:I agree that I have something, but the reason I haven't officially self-diagnosed myself with Asperger's is due to the comorbid antisocial traits, regardless of whether or not you believe it (you are sounding like a troll).

"Official self diagnose" is an oxymoron. You're not a medical professional and you have none of the legal rights that they do, so your self-diagnosis is meaningless because there's a 0% chance of it resulting in any sort of help. You're also of sufficient medical education to make that diagnosis and have any confidence that you've identified the correct condition. However you are most certainly unwell, your quality of life is clearly being affected by whatever disorder you're suffering from, so I do recommend trying to find another psychiatrist and explain these symptoms without wrangling for any specific diagnosis. If you explain the ways in which you are unwell, they will tell you what condition is causing it, and you are unwell in far too many ways to be fearful that you might not have a condition.

Evil doesn't exist, neither does good. Rather, there's just actions and consequences. Example and proof of concept: a US soldier in Afganistan shoots several people in civilian dress and is hailed as a hero. Another soldier shoots several people in civilian dress and is arressted for murder. Identical actions, different consequences. But was one 'good' and the other 'evil?'

In the case of mental illness like Asperger's, things aren't working in the brain that enable others to distinguish positive and negative actions like others can. But in your specific case you obviously understand the consequences of your actions. You might have some impulse control issue, but you're not sociopathic. Consequently, because you understand things, you're hardly 'evil.'

As to why you can't form relationships when you clearly wish to (another sign you're no supervillian heh,) it's more likely you're simply going about it the wrong way for the kind of people you're trying to hit it off with. But then, that's a problem many of us share even minus mental illness so join the club. Take a number and wait.

ScienceAndCake wrote:

AutisticPsychopath wrote:I agree that I have something, but the reason I haven't officially self-diagnosed myself with Asperger's is due to the comorbid antisocial traits, regardless of whether or not you believe it (you are sounding like a troll).

"Official self diagnose" is an oxymoron. You're not a medical professional and you have none of the legal rights that they do, so your self-diagnosis is meaningless because there's a 0% chance of it resulting in any sort of help. You're also of sufficient medical education to make that diagnosis and have any confidence that you've identified the correct condition. However you are most certainly unwell, your quality of life is clearly being affected by whatever disorder you're suffering from, so I do recommend trying to find another psychiatrist and explain these symptoms without wrangling for any specific diagnosis. If you explain the ways in which you are unwell, they will tell you what condition is causing it, and you are unwell in far too many ways to be fearful that you might not have a condition.

As far I know there isn't any difference between a professions diagnosis and an individuals self-diagnosis. I don't think there is any official registry, special membership card you get, or anything that makes the doctors diagnosis official. As far as I know it is just him writting it down on a sheet of paper and giving it to you. I never said that I don't have a condition. I obviously do. The problem is that I meet both the criteria for Asperger's and Antisocial Personality Disorder. This comorbidty is extremely rare and when I tried doing research into it there is little information available. I am either 1) Asperger's Syndrome comorbid with Antisocial Personality, or 2) Reactive Attachment Disorder. The problem is that there is also extremely few resources available for Reactive Attachment Disorder, especially for adults. There is literally no way for a psychologist or any medical professional to know the difference. This is something that will take a long time for me to figure out on my own before I make the official diagnosis.

Also, there is no information that a psychologist would have that I wouldn't already have access to on my own. They don't have any hidden secrets, all the information is public and I have done lots of research into psychological conditions so I am confident I would identify the correct condition. You seem silly, thinking that just because they are a professional they are superior to you. Do you know how often it is that someone will go and get a diagnosis, and then go a new psychologist to receive a completely different diagnosis? Psychologists are useless and only serve a purpose for uneducated people with poor self-awareness.

I am concerned that you mentioned seeing a psychiatrist. Do you not know that they only give out drugs? Psychiatry is a scam so I suggest you do some research into it. They won't cure you and just want to get you addicted to drugs and make you a life long customer. Please don't tell me that you are taking drugs because you have Aspergers and saw a psychiatrist... I would never see a psychiatrist, can't imagine the benefit.

AutisticPsychopath wrote:As far I know there isn't any difference between a professions diagnosis and an individuals self-diagnosis. I don't think there is any official registry, special membership card you get, or anything that makes the doctors diagnosis official.

Yes there is - a medical degree is accredited by the Liaison Committee on Medical Education and grants you a swathe of legal rights that you don't have. Try and get yourself prescription medicine based on your self-diagnosis and you'll soon find out that your personal diagnosis has no legal standing.

AutisticPsychopath wrote:Also, there is no information that a psychologist would have that I wouldn't already have access to on my own.

This is true of physics too, yet if you tried to build a space ship you'd not be able to. It might technically be "out there" where you can read it, but you don't comprehend it at all because you're lacking 6 years of scientifically rigorous medical training.

AutisticPsychopath wrote:They don't have any hidden secrets, all the information is public and I have done lots of research into psychological conditions so I am confident I would identify the correct condition.

Confidence born of ignorance.

AutisticPsychopath wrote:You seem silly, thinking that just because they are a professional they are superior to you. Do you know how often it is that someone will go and get a diagnosis, and then go a new psychologist to receive a completely different diagnosis? Psychologists are useless and only serve a purpose for uneducated people with poor self-awareness.

Firstly, a psychologist can't diagnose you; a psychiatrist is still required. Secondly, the practical reality of your situation is the only meaningful indicator of how useful you are as a physician - I've seen a psychiatrist, who gave me a referrral to a cognitive behavioural expert who helped me eliminate all symptoms of my condition, and I'm now very successful. You've enjoyed...well shall we merely leave it at "much less" success taking your own medical advice.

AutisticPsychopath wrote:I am concerned that you mentioned seeing a psychiatrist. Do you not know that they only give out drugs? Psychiatry is a scam so I suggest you do some research into it. They won't cure you and just want to get you addicted to drugs and make you a life long customer.

I did see a psychiatrist, who never prescribed me a single drug. In fact the first thing he did was refer me to a psychologist, who has no capacity to prescribe drugs. I don't know at what point during their medical training you believe psychologists have a mind-control chip placed into them that removed all of their humanity and ability to make moral choices and allows a drug company sales rep to remotely control their body, but I'd contend this never happens. What's more, your comprehension of psychiatry is rooted in American bias - I live in the UK, where we don't pay for medicines we need to be well, so your claim that psychiatrists are merely puppets of the drugs trade doesn't have any meaning here because they wouldn't profit from doing that.

AutisticPsychopath wrote:Please don't tell me that you are taking drugs because you have Aspergers and saw a psychiatrist... I would never see a psychiatrist, can't imagine the benefit.

I have never been medicated, but I did recieve a huge amount of psychological help. As I mentioned, my psychiatrist carried out the necessary neurological tests to establish symptoms of asperger's syndrome and then immediately referred me to a psychologist for cognitive behavioural therapy, the end result of which was me returning to normal functioning without the use of drugs.

If you have difficulty finding a non-professional sexual partner, it's probably more because of AS and less because of psychopathy.

Am I saying that signs of psychopathy won't scare some women off? No, I think it would since women also have the survival instinct and will flee if they sense danger. My hunch is that AS would be a bigger obstacle to gaining sexual interest from women however. Women would be especially turned off by the overt symptoms of AS like social awkwardness.