Taking kids toys, help.

[jasmin]

Your kitties do cute stuff, as do mine. Nothing wrong with burying poo in cat litter and fishing in the toilet and then going up on the kitchen counter haha My act actually goes in the sink.... Yep, it's disturbing. It sounds like your 15 year old cat loves you.

[Tempest88]

It sounds like your 15 year old cat loves you.

Cats don't love. He's ensuring he's continued survival. I've kept him fed, housed, comfortable and healthy his entire life... he wants to make sure I keep it up. He doesn't try to crawl up my nose for my sake... he does it because he knows it wakes me and he wants attention. He's extremely selfish. Cats are kind of like AsPDs

Nothing wrong with burying poo in cat litter and fishing in the toilet and then going up on the kitchen counter haha My act actually goes in the sink.... Yep, it's disturbing.

Good thing clorox wipes exist!

[jasmin]

They love like any animals that co-exist with family members love lol They have little cat colonies where they raise kittens together with their mothers or sisters so I'm guessing they bond. I mean yah they do it because the cat ancestors that did it had a higher survival rate so they inherited their genes but still the same thing could be said about humanz
I hope your cat doesn't have boogers...

[Tempest88]

They love like any animals that co-exist with family members love lol They have little cat colonies where they raise kittens together with their mothers or sisters so I'm guessing they bond.

I can't empathize or understand how humans love, so I suppose it's no shock I don't think cats can love I see their 'bonding' as purely survival based. I think humans are the same way, except over time... people were raised to think they love and to think empathy etc is real... when it's really not. People are told from a young age it is... so they grow up believing it.

Cats aren't as complex. My pure white cat... will sit there and groom my arm... she only does it for a large surface to clean herself on lol (lick lick lick lick 'rubs the back of her head where she's licked my arm) and repeat for each of the harder for her to reach areas of herself

When she does it to my kids, they're all "Awww she loves me"... they don't realize what she's doing is a purely selfish act... and she's just using them. You see this type of thing all around and in every species, it's completely normal. Humans just don't seem to like the idea of it though

[jasmin]

Your cat is hilarious. You're like her pursonal stylist then?

I don't know what cats feel they do just want cuddles sometimes, not food or someone to help them do their hair. Not sure they know they'd go hungry without you. People do know that they might not survive on their own, but that is separate from affection.

[Tempest88]

Your cat is hilarious. You're like her pursonal stylist then?

Ha! Yes! Cat Stylist Extraordinaire Also her personal janitor... That cat is a rescue cat... someone was about to dump her in a field when she was a kitten, she was covered in TONS of fleas and open sores from scratch... she was about 10 - 11 weeks old. I took her, got her vet treatment and brought her home... she has a horrible habit of peeing on anything that's left down... if my kids leave clothes on the floor, she'll pee on them (I had her spayed at a kitten, before she ever came into heat, so that's not the issue), stuffed animals... anything soft... sigh... I think it's because she was in a filthy environment with the people who attempted to dump her. If nothing soft is down, she uses the litter. She never craps out of the litter box.

It's extremely annoying and I've thrown out hundreds and hundreds of dollars worth of stuff that I couldn't get the cat urine smell out of. If I got rid of her though, she'd end up dumped again or put down for her bad habit, so I'm stuck with her. She's only 18 months old.... it's going to be a long 15+ years I don't like her at all... but it's not her fault and her actions aren't driven by spite, manipulation etc... I see her as innocent... more than any human. So I can't do anything unfair to her. It's my self imposed 'code', since I don't have feelings to guide me Odd to you and others, but it makes perfect sense to me.

Not sure they know they'd go hungry without you.

True, definitely not on a conscious level anyhow. I guess they get some sort of instant gratification out of cuddles... the heat and rubbing. I suppose regardless of the motivation, affection is affection and does not always equal love.

I don't know what cats feel they do just want cuddles sometimes, not food or someone to help them do their hair.

True, sometimes they just lay beside and follow me around the house for no reason that's obvious to me... and I'm often trying to figure out what motivation something or someone has. Maybe it's just me projecting Humans tend to do that and I'm not an exception to human tendencies.

My Bengal cuddles with my kids often, for no apparent reason... since they can't do much for him. I'm the hand that feeds.

[jasmin]

Oh man, poor cattttttttttttttttttttttttt! I'm so glad you saved her! What made you do it? Have you tried sticking her nose in the pee she did on the floor/clothes/whatever and then very gently smacking her on the nose with a rolled up newspaper and then putting her inside the litter box? I did that to my rescued kitten and he never peed on the floor again. Don't be rough with her though lol

Nah, your way of thinking isn't odd. I don't always feel a lot of emotion, my decisions are based on this type of reasoning sometimes too.

Yah, cuddling is about gratification for them, but they lick your hand and try to hug you too, so that you will also feel gratified

[Tempest88]

I'm so glad you saved her! What made you do it?

Well, my kind big hearted nature obviously Seriously, it's because it was not fair to the cat and I figured I would enjoy publicly shaming the people who did it. I posted on the local craigslist here... their description, license plate number, pictures of the condition of the kitten and what they were doing. Ultimately, the SPCA got involved and ended up seizing the mother cat and a couple others they had. They couldn't release information to me about the exact kind of conditions they were living in etc... but obviously they weren't good ones.

I used to be really, really horrible to animals when I was a kid, I don't regret it or feel bad about it. I won't hurt animals now. I try and save my 'Sadistic' and 'Bad' qualities and use them towards people who deserve it... justifiable actions. I can't deny my true nature 100%, it's been a way I can kind of get some control over it. Obviously animals don't deserve any bad... they're innocent, so I try to help animals now when I can... it's logical. No people deserve good treatment... I'm indifferent towards most, until I'm given a reason not to be... and then it's game on.

Have you tried sticking her nose in the pee she did on the floor/clothes/whatever and then very gently smacking her on the nose with a rolled up newspaper and then putting her inside the litter box?

I haven't, she crouches to fast movements... so I suspect she was abused as a small kitten. I think if I hit her, even lightly... it would put her into 100% flight mode. I just try to keep everything up off the floor... but with kids... it can be difficult. I switched to one of those front load large capacity washing machines because of her

[jasmin]

It's sooooooo good that those cats were saved and that you shamed those pieces of $#%^. My cat just scratched me lol
Yah, poor kittie must have been abused as a kitten.

[Tempest88]

My cat just scratched me lol

Perhaps kitty needs a nail trimming. Nothing like nails used for digging in their litter box.. cutting your skin open. I'm allergic to cats... so is my 7 year old (allergy testing) so if either her or I get scratched, it really swells up.

Yah, poor kittie must have been abused as a kitten.

Definitely. She's pure white and her fur was stained in spots from blood... her own blood. It was an orangey/yellow colour. She was very anemic from blood loss and severe flea infestation. Other then that... all her blood tests came back saying she was otherwise healthy. So some antibiotics for the open sores and a prescription diet for the first few months and she's was as good as 'new'.

and that you shamed those pieces of $#%^

That was the more satisfying part of the whole thing To someone else it would have been saving the cat I'm sure, but it was fun to ###$ someone over... especially where it was justified and socially acceptable.