Starfire_777 wrote:Hello Weston,
I am also new to these forums. As other users will no doubt soon communicate to you, and I suspect with considerably more gusto, far more people in this society than they will ever admit feel the same way you do. You don't have to make yourself feel like a monster for your involuntary attractions and reactions to beautiful people. It is pretty normal for older people to be attracted to young people, which is why so many men and women in their 20s, 30s, 40s, and up seek out relationships with men and women who are 18+. Youth is beautiful in a way that age is not, and vice-versa; this is why they tend to attract each other. But because of the horrid taboo that exists, hardly anyone is willing to admit to the attraction they feel for young people. This taboo will be sorted out by society in time, just as all taboos in history have done.*
*For example, at different times throughout history and in different societies, it has been an equivalent taboo to modern pedophilia to be any of the following things: homosexual, Christian, non-Christian, heretic, atheist, Jewish, infidel, communist, a witch, and so forth. For some reason, societies always need their scapegoats.
For the time being, I would recommend that you keep this secret under wraps as much as possible and only consider telling people you absolutely, positively trust and if you there is a real need to. Other than keeping it secret, you must also focus on never acting on those attractions in such a way that you detrimentally affect someone else's life and/or your own. You seem to be doing a good job of this already, but for instance, for me personally I don't allow myself even to be in the presence of children and/or teenagers. This makes things easier on me and also removes temptation from my life. Also make sure you do not fall into viewing JB or CP no matter how safe you think it is to do so. If you peruse these forums, you'll see many users have been arrested for doing such things, in circumstances in which they thought it was fairly safe.
Anyhoo, welcome to the forums and congratulations on taking preventive measures.
One last thing, I might advise against trying to self-medicate your problems away since I have a hunch people like us are more susceptible to drug abuse, which in turn leads to severe losses in self-awareness and self-control. Don't want to lose awareness and control of yourself...
Mustelidae wrote:I'll just start by saying that I related to some of the details of your story. I started liking girls around late 14 but soon after that I noticed I was attracted to boys my age as well. The feelings for boys disappeared around 16 and resurfaced at about 18 and I can now say that I am attracted to women and boys aged 12-15 for whatever reason. Anyway, you aren't a child molester and even if these attractions are in fact real and a part of you, temporarily or permanently, for whatever reason, just know that your thoughts don't determine if you are a good or a bad person, your actions do.
Could these feelings be a part of your obsessive compulsive thoughts?
At what age did you masturbate to same sex fantasies and what were the age of the people in them? Was it the fantasy itself that turned you on or could it simply have been the thought of masturbation? Were you 'testing' yourself or did you genuinely want to have a same-sex fantasy?
Why did you start having fantasies about the boys? Do you think it is to do with your OCD or do you actually find their voices very 'cute' and sexually appealing? How does their voice make you feel?
Do boys mean something to you that girls or women do not? How do you feel about women emotionally? Do you find them emotionally threatening? If you get along better with boys, can relate to them better and find them less emotionally threatening then do you think those factors might be an influence on your thoughts?
Did you simply admire the boys looks or were you actually sexually attracted to him? There is nothing wrong with recognising someone's good looks if that is what happened.
I'm still confused by my attractions and I hate feeling like I don't know myself too.
Mustelidae wrote:This thread popped into my mind today for no apparent reason and what do you know you replied. Weird.
Could it be that same sex thoughts are something that you might be paranoid about and that might cause OCD thoughts about it?
I too had same sex thoughts about some of my peers starting at 14 and dropping off at 16 and my feelings towards women has always been stronger until recently. I too only had thoughts and no real feelings at late 18 when they resurfaced. They did develop into quite strong feelings however. So what do you think of their voices? How do they make you feel? Do you think this is OCD and these thoughts are popping up simply because you consider them to be extreme and that you shouldn't be having them? Or do you actually find their high-pitched, feminine and energetic voices appealing? Even arousing? Do you think that you might be having these thoughts because you are getting to know these boys, getting along with them and connecting with them? Are they perhaps providing some level of emotional connection that you are seeking or lacking elsewhere? Could that, combined with the fact that you are straight and these boys sound and would even look more feminine, possibly be causing these sexual thoughts in an effort to satisfy some need?
I'm not saying we have the same issues and I'm not trying to put thoughts into your head but it is something to consider. These are things that I continue to consider about myself.
Don't let it stop you from having a family. Chances are you won't be sexually attracted to your own children as far as I know. Even if you are that doesn't mean that you are ever going to hurt them now does it? It might even make you a better, more caring parent. I'm not sure if you will always have these thoughts. We don't know the cause. I guess limiting your exposure to young males would limit or reduce these thoughts. Therapy might help but I'm not sure how easy it would be to identify the issues causing this problem and you should find out how therapists in your area deal with people saying they are having thoughts about children. You should be okay though.
Mustelidae wrote:Apparently there is a fluidity to human sexuality but we don't know if you were born this way, if there is an issue that needs to addressed or if this is just a temporary phase.
Denial about homosexuality has been put to me a few times before. Like perhaps I am repressing a homosexual desire and that manifests as an attraction to only young boys since they are masculine in some ways and yet still feminine in other ways. As if it allows me to relieve that mental pressure or something. Its just a theory though.
I guess if you do actually find their voices appealing then the voice itself is what causes the thoughts. Still, if this is ocd then it could just be the fact that you consider having such thoughts disgusting or extreme and that causes an unwanted thought. Is your thought process similar to that or are the sexual thoughts really out of nowhere?
How do you feel about women? Have you had a girlfriend before or sex? Are you confident with women and in your ability to get a girlfriend? Sorry if these questions are too intrusive.
If seeing boys or hearing their voices causes these thoughts then limiting your exposure would be the best way to reduce them. So do these thoughts only occur with boys that you know more than a stranger? Ones that you have a more personal connection with. If simply seeing a 'good looking' boy doesn't cause these thoughts then that is something to look at. Be it an emotional thing or ocd related. Or not relevant at all.
I understand that it's hard. I went through the same feelings as you when these thoughts resurfaced at 18. I too was playing games online and I ignored it at first but I did find the voices of boys appealing and soothing. I eventually became more conscious and mindful of it. I too began imagining sexual things and it scared me. I thought I was a paedophile and sick and was so worried as well. I eventually found this forum and lurked for several months before making some posts and eventually accepting myself somewhat. I still have days where I feel gross and sick and I still don't know why I am like this but I'm dealing with it. Again, I'm not saying we have the same issues but there are some similarities in my story.
Denial is something to consider but if one theory doesn't provide any new ideas or possible solutions then don't dwell on it. The best thing to do is to try to develop or maintain a healthy body and that means a healthy school, work and social balance too. If you are in a good place physically and emotionally then that provides a good platform for dealing with your worries and might even directly or indirectly help with these thoughts. Just know that these thoughts alone don't make anyone a bad person. Our thoughts don't determine if we are good or bad, our actions do. Have you considered trying to get a girlfriend and seeing if that relationship helps with these thoughts?
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