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Gore/mutilation fetishism is not necrophilia

Postby Graveyard76 » Thu Jan 08, 2015 5:59 pm

This needs to be pointed out, because a disappointing amount of people either can't tell the difference, or simply assume that the two things go hand in hand, or are one and the same.

Necrophilia is an attraction to dead people. That's it. It doesn't imply any personal idiosyncrasies or tastes. You'd be just as wrong to assume it automatically comes with certain stereotype traits, as you'd be to assume that all gay men are effeminate, prancing pansies, or all lesbians are shaven headed butch types who wear dungarees.

Gore fetishism is one of those things that can affect an individual with an attraction to dead people, but it's by no means an integral trait of necrophilia. If you ask me, it's a manifestation of sadism, which is something that crops up in all sexualities. It's not peculiar to us as necrophiles, and I don't like it when its assumed that it's part of my sexual make up.

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Re: Gore/mutilation fetishism is not necrophilia

Postby ParanoidMan » Thu Jan 08, 2015 6:59 pm

That clears a few things up for me, people are repulsed by dead bodies yet I am attracted to the deceased female form in all it's glory, so I assumed I was a necrophile. I also really like how the pathologists interact with the bodies in the videos I have watched, it is so clinical and uncaring which is sad the way they treat them but since they do it anyway I might as well get turned on by it.

I wish autopsies just didn't exist tbh, they seem to have such a sexual power over me.
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Re: Gore/mutilation fetishism is not necrophilia

Postby skeleton-countess » Fri Jan 09, 2015 7:29 am

Necrophilia is an attraction to dead people. That's it. It doesn't imply any personal idiosyncrasies or tastes. You'd be just as wrong to assume it automatically comes with certain stereotype traits, as you'd be to assume that all gay men are effeminate, prancing pansies, or all lesbians are shaven headed butch types who wear dungarees.

This is totally correct.
It seems like everyone is so quick to apply stereotypes to me whenever I mention being a necrophile. Then I realized it's not only necrophiles who receive this treatment.
It'd be nice if there was a greater effort to educate people, especially young people, about sexuality and diversity.

I also really like how the pathologists interact with the bodies in the videos I have watched, it is so clinical and uncaring which is sad the way they treat them but since they do it anyway I might as well get turned on by it.

The one who seems emotionally detached, clinical and uncaring here is you.
Anyway, we care about dead people, so we don't want them objectified and reduced to trash.
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Re: Gore/mutilation fetishism is not necrophilia

Postby Graveyard76 » Fri Jan 09, 2015 2:17 pm

Objectifying, and reducing people to trash, is something I see in a lot of people's attitudes. Men and women of all sexual orientations do it, and I think it stems from a feeling of powerlessness on behalf of the individual. It's nothing to do with who they're attracted to.

I've seen academic writings, from people with letters after their name, claiming that all necrophiles are like this, and citing it as the reason why we like dead people. Most people don't know any better, and these 'experts' largely get away with writing whatever theoretical nonsense they like.
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Re: Gore/mutilation fetishism is not necrophilia

Postby Reaper » Sun Jan 11, 2015 2:30 pm

skeleton-countess wrote:Anyway, we care about dead people, so we don't want them objectified and reduced to trash.


When a person dies they become nothing more than a useless, rotting corpse. That's a fact. So saying they shouldn't be objectified and reduced to trash is kind of amusing, since they're too dead to care.

What attracts me is the process of dying, unfortunately, it is sometimes associated with the excretion of bodily fluids in the form of piss and sht. I don't feel any attraction to a dead body.

A dead body can do nothing but lay there and rot, so where's the attraction? Is it the smell of rotting flesh? Or, is it the fact they can no longer betray you, insult you or hurt you in any way?
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Re: Gore/mutilation fetishism is not necrophilia

Postby Vinylvanilla » Sun Jan 11, 2015 2:43 pm

Dark Soul wrote:
skeleton-countess wrote:Anyway, we care about dead people, so we don't want them objectified and reduced to trash.


When a person dies they become nothing more than a useless, rotting corpse. That's a fact. So saying they shouldn't be objectified and reduced to trash is kind of amusing, since they're too dead to care.

What attracts me is the process of dying, unfortunately, it is sometimes associated with the excretion of bodily fluids in the form of piss and sht. I don't feel any attraction to a dead body.

A dead body can do nothing but lay there and rot, so where's the attraction? Is it the smell of rotting flesh? Or, is it the fact they can no longer betray you, insult you or hurt you in any way?


I don't think it's possible to give a definite and clear explanation on why we're attracted to something. For example, I can't explain why I'm attracted to men, I simply am, I think the same can be applied to paraphilias.
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Re: Gore/mutilation fetishism is not necrophilia

Postby Reaper » Sun Jan 11, 2015 2:50 pm

I think most people who are attracted to dead bodies are people who were hurt by living people.

My theory: I don't think you're attracted to the dead body as such. I think what attracts most necrophiles is what the dead body represents. A dead body can't reject you, it can't betray your trust and somehow in your mind you've twisted that into some kind of sexual fetish, but in reality, you're really just someone who is afraid of being hurt again by the living.
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Re: Gore/mutilation fetishism is not necrophilia

Postby Graveyard76 » Sun Jan 11, 2015 4:15 pm

Dark Soul, there isn't a soul on this forum who hasn't been hurt by people in some way or another in their lives. I can say with total confidence that my paraphilia has not come as a result of interactions with other people. It's something that comes from within, and after spending six months with a psychotherapist last year, delving into long forgotten memories of my childhood, I'm pretty sure it's something that's always been there.

You've stated your opinion of dead people, and how you have no idea how somebody like me can have feelings for them. Please don't assume to know how I feel, or tell me why I feel the way I do. I've never had any trouble attracting living women, so there's your rejection theory blown out.

It's not a fetish either. It's a sexuality. I've had a long time to come to terms with that, and it's not something I accepted overnight, so please don't tell me it's something I've twisted out of a fear of rejection. That's the sort of theoretical crap we necrophiles read a lot from so-called psychologists who have no idea whatsoever what it's like to walk in our shoes, and it infuriates us. If you don't understand something, feel free to ask. Don't just assume and assert your theory. You might find it rubs people up the wrong way.
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Re: Gore/mutilation fetishism is not necrophilia

Postby skeleton-countess » Sun Jan 11, 2015 4:29 pm

Dark Soul wrote:I think most people who are attracted to dead bodies are people who were hurt by living people.

My theory: I don't think you're attracted to the dead body as such. I think what attracts most necrophiles is what the dead body represents. A dead body can't reject you, it can't betray your trust and somehow in your mind you've twisted that into some kind of sexual fetish, but in reality, you're really just someone who is afraid of being hurt again by the living.

Lol, please. I've never had a difficulty attracting living people. They shove themselves in my face far too often. The only thing I have a difficulty with is keeping them from coming after me. If you figure out a way to make living people reject me, please let me know :mrgreen:

Edit: Oh, and I do happen to enjoy the smell of rotting flesh.
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Re: Gore/mutilation fetishism is not necrophilia

Postby Graveyard76 » Sun Jan 11, 2015 4:43 pm

My dad used to be absolutely convinced that gay men only go with other men, because they can't get girlfriends. He doesn't think that now, but it was the sort of thing a lot of people assumed back in the eighties, and I guess that attitude has moved onto people with paraphilias now that homosexuality has been demystified.
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