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Re: OCD or actual suicidality? Please read. Carefully. HORRIFIC.

Postby igoger » Tue Jan 30, 2018 5:35 pm

sickofbeinginvalid wrote:
igoger wrote:So basically this is my situation:
1. I do not consiously think about it, it is like a wave of thoughts which cause knot in the stomach and nervousness.

This right here itself proves it’s OCD and not actual suicidal thinking. When I’m suicidal, I WANT to have those thoughts and i’m thinking about it conciously. Obviously no one WANTS to be suicidal, but suicidal people want the thoughts, because it gives them a “solution” to the pain they are feeling.

igoger wrote: 2. I do not find relief in the thoughts(sometimes the OCD makes it feel like I do, but I do not think it is true because my anxiety raises high up when it happens and if i truly found a relief I would consiously think about it, not trying to avoid it and distract myself, google, reddit, reasurance etc.)


Our brain ATTEMPTS to find relief in the thoughts because it’s so sick of being in constant fear and anxiety, that it tries to accept what you are fearing. But that doesn’t mean the thoughts are true.

igoger wrote: 3. I do not feel hopeless. (Sometimes I get intrusive feelings, but they are not true.)


Then you are probably not really suicidal.

Everything else you’ve said further indicates to me that it is OCD. If you were suicidal, you aren’t going to fear the thoughts as much as you want them as a mean of coping with pain.


You mentioned pain? Can you describe it? How can I tell if I am depressed and the thoughts are depression?
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Re: OCD or actual suicidality? Please read. Carefully. HORRIFIC.

Postby Holodeck » Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:16 pm

You've described your pain as OCD is. If it were suicidal depression it would be how I described it.

The pain of spiraling depression is different from anxiety. Anxiety over fearing this type of thing is totally different than seeing death as an easy way out. For our kind, it wouldn't ever be an easy solution even if the OCD makes us think of it easily.
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Postby igoger » Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:49 pm

Hey, do you have whatsapp/discord/fb I have several questions. Cheers!
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Postby Holodeck » Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:49 pm

Can't ask here?
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Postby igoger » Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:51 pm

Too long and personal. :D
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Postby Holodeck » Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:58 pm

Can pm me if ya want, but sorry I don't have any throw away accounts I can use for that. My stuff is basically all tied to my job.
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Postby igoger » Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:01 pm

Okay, I will pm you later. My main concern is this existential thing.

-- Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:03 pm --

Holodeck wrote:You've described your pain as OCD is. If it were suicidal depression it would be how I described it.

The pain of spiraling depression is different from anxiety. Anxiety over fearing this type of thing is totally different than seeing death as an easy way out. For our kind, it wouldn't ever be an easy solution even if the OCD makes us think of it easily.

And sometimes the OCD makes it feel like 'an easy solution and it raises the knot in the stomach.
Is it like this for you?
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Postby Holodeck » Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:17 pm

Yes however the anxiety means the OCD is wrong and that it obviously isn't an easy solution. One of those sounds easy in theory things.

Existential OCD works the same way. It's more of a pain though as we know we're going to go one day, unlike suicidal OCD that tries to convince us it's what we want to do.

It's the same thing though. If you look at any type of OCD, even if it's a different anxiety topic, it'll still be the same thing.
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Postby igoger » Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:51 am

Hello again, another thing which worries me a lot is, a feeling like I experience anxiety because I want it, but I know it is forbitten etc. something like this. I can't fully describe it. F*****ck.
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Postby Holodeck » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:08 am

Once again. You wouldn't have anxiety if you wanted it.
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