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by sassywatermelons » Sat May 17, 2014 5:01 am
So I thought I had Pure O ocd because of my violent thoughts but I read the wikipedia page on intrusive thoughts and it said that criminal behaviour came from the people who did not feel guilty about my thoughts. I have obsessed for a long time about whether or not I can feel remorse or guilt and whenever I have a violent thought, I feel more of a rush of panic rather than guilt. Everything I read says I should feel guilty but why should I feel guilty if they're just thoughts?? I'm worried that I'm a psychopath now and that I'm going to act on these thoughts...what do I do? (btw, I can cry and stuff like that but when it comes to guilt, I just don't feel it when it comes to OCD but I can feel it in 'real life' things???)
Please help me.
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by zindel8847 » Sun May 18, 2014 7:18 am
I think the more you tried to avoid not thinking about those thoughts, the harder to forget..

Maybe you're not guilthy because your mind knows that you don't rlly mean those thoughts.
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by DonMason » Sun May 18, 2014 8:52 pm
I think that you're in an OK place - the fact that you know these are "just thoughts" as you said is where you need to be. This is because they are, in fact, JUST THOUGHTS. Just because the bad feeling you get (the "rush of panic" as you described it) isn't GUILT, does not mean you are not having these thoughts as a symptom of OCD.
It is important to remember that everyone is different, and intrusive thoughts treat everyone differently. The more time you spend with them and begin to understand them, the less guilt/panic you are going to feel. Although I have felt guilt from intrusive thoughts, there has been plenty of time that I've spent just feeling like you do - panicked, as in "what is wrong with me?" I myself have come to the point where I don't really ever feel guilt because there has never been legitimate desire to do bad things - there is no sense that I'd receive pleasure or satisfaction from hurting someone else.
Even if you think you MIGHT feel good via hurting someone, I wouldn't be surprised if this was OCD screwing with your thoughts. We cannot always control our thoughts, but we can do our best to understand them.
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by sassywatermelons » Sun May 18, 2014 8:58 pm
Thank you for your kind responses. Yes, it is weird. When I first started getting the thoughts, I felt guilt (I think) and I didn't know how to handle them. But like you said, it does feel like I actually want to hurt people now and that scares me the most and I always wonder if it is actually ocd or not...it is like my brain sometimes says "you can't be happy unless you act on your thoughts" and I hate it I just want everything to go away..
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by DonMason » Mon May 19, 2014 12:21 am
Yeah, to me, that pushing of "maybe you won't feel good unless..." that comes after a bit of comfort with yourself is your mind finding a new way to screw with you. Also, even if the guilt is gone, I don't think the thoughts would disturb or scare a sociopathic/psychotic person as you say.
It would not be a bad idea to talk to a professional to sort these feelings out, however. I am not a professional, I am only speaking from experiences with what I understand as harm-OCD. I still have the thoughts, but they barely bother me any more because I KNOW I wouldn't hurt a fly and that knowledge of my own intentions far outweighs the annoying intrusive thoughts.
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by sassywatermelons » Mon May 19, 2014 12:46 am
Is it normal for thoughts like I dont want to want to act on these thoughts??
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by DonMason » Mon May 19, 2014 3:05 am
I'm not sure what you are asking, sorry. Can you clarify?
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by sassywatermelons » Mon May 19, 2014 4:11 am
Its like my brain is saying i want to act on the thoughts but i don't want to want to act on them? ( sorry i can't explain it better)
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by DonMason » Mon May 19, 2014 2:56 pm
Ok, yes. OCD can make you doubt yourself and your intentions. It is called "the doubting disease" after all. Here's a bit from an article written by a sufferer:
"No matter how unlikely a feared consequence, if there exists even the fraction of a percent of a possibility that it could occur, the disorder is able to find purchase. It seeks out the cracks in our perception of reality, it finds the tiny darkened territories on our internal maps; and then ceaselessly, tirelessly, it sets about expanding them." (
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/tri ... g-disorder)
The only immediate advice I can offer you is to accept the fact that you are discomforted or simply confused with these thoughts because OCD will push thoughts that are going to make you feel that way. As I said, I don't think a psychopath/sociopath would be concerned with these thoughts and ruminate about what they mean.
Really though, don't be afraid to talk to a professional (preferably one that is familiar with OCD). It should be very helpful and reinforce what I am saying. They will not judge you and they will want to help you.
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