How do you get past that "Well it must be true"

"If I don't react to this thought immediately with a compulsive counter-acting thought/action then this intrusive thought must be true" It hurts and it feels so true because I've not argued for myself and defended it, I feel vulnerable around people now, I can't go into situations unless I use a compulsion because then what I fear most will become true, right? NO. Whys it so hard to do it though!

i'm stuck at the moment, mainly with acceptance and thoughts. I've been having intrusive thoughts that are bothering me for about 2 months now. I begin to ignore it and stop using compulsions to prove it is not a valid thought and that its not true. So mostly my compulsions are arguing with the thought, trying to rationalize it and prove its wrong. I know for a 100 per cent it is not true yet my body and my thoughts still make me feel like it is true unless I use compulsive actions, its led me to avoiding situations, staying in bed, not having fun, not saying my opinion etc.

So how do I begin using acceptance on these compulsions/thoughts, how do I deal with that stage of accepting a thought as a thought when that thought and that feeling you get feels as if its true or its real and you are your worst fears. Because a compulsion hasn't been used, no safety behavior which created this OCD in the first place was used, leads you to get to that point in thoughts where you go "Ok I'm going to accept whatever thoughts come my way, I won't let them rule my life anymore" then seconds later you get that thought/feeling of truth and its scary as hell. So you try really hard but you give in to the pure O false lies.

So how can I come to deal with that stage of acceptance where you need to get past that "what if it is true? It must be true if I'm not rationalizing it or replacing it with a positive thought or doing any other of my compulsions" type of thoughts that feel so dangerous and at the time just horrible. Those are the moments I crack up because I always tend to give in and flood myself with compulsions to avoid the thoughts becoming “true” which in itself is absolute craziness but some reason logic doesn't help much.

I mean if you can get past that point of acceptance then these thoughts will begin fading away and will lose their emotional impact on you, right? That’s what I find anyhow and I've listened to a video where someone suggested that was probably what helped them not completely overcome OCD as to completely overcome any mental illness is close to impossible, as everyone I’m sure shows signs no matter how minor or large of a mental illness. He overcame by recognizing that getting past that bit and showing less and less interest in these thoughts, your brain will change and stop feeding them you these thoughts because the brain is acutely trying to help you but it doesn't realize until you drop down the danger levels of those thoughts as they’re acutely harmless and just thoughts, so the extra help from the brain is not necessary at all.

These thoughts are driving me mad, stopping me from being myself and making me depressed and lack confidence, I really need help I want to live again. Please any advice or help is welcomed.

I've been feeling the same way recently, is it PureO or not? Can I really kill someone and rob them? What happens if my OCD isn't even real? What happens if one day I lash out... I'm constantly having thoughts of robbing, committing crimes, rape, killing people I love, etc. That's a broad idea just so you know you're not alone with the suffering. I don't react to these compulsions, instead ''face'' with thoughts with little emotion, even this process leads to anxiety because it's much like ''Now what do I do?''.

I wrote this in a thread (copy and paste into word due to size):
'' have read the stickied PureO topic but.. How do you actually know it's OCD and you're not about to hurt someone out of impulse/acting on your thought? It just seems so easy

Sometimes my OCD fades to the background, rather than attack me in the foreground, this only leads to obsessions manifesting in something else when it's not as extreme, usually stronger and more vivid.. Recently it's been negative thoughts, extremely negative and violent. Layman's terms: Beyond repulsive.


I've never put anyone in danger/severely purposely hurt anyone but my thoughts feel so intense and so vicious I literally feel helpless sometimes, they're so vivid and realistic I feel like I'm about to lash out and hurt someone I love even though I never have nor have a real desire, not unless I again, create an obsession stemming from the thought ''I do want to''. I just listen to these thoughts and find it hard to not accept them for what they are, instead I apply them to myself. I feel as though myself and my OCD have reached an all time low where I'm questioning if I could act on these thoughts.

I know this will pass in a few days and my thoughts won't be as extreme, I'll be coping quite okay but for now these thoughts are plaguing me & seriously driving me insane, whilst making me extremely upset. I really don't want to have to see a therapist, I'd rather communicate with real sufferers online for little cost.

I feel as though these thoughts I've had to deal with have completely destroyed my innocence, childhood and well being, the images and immoral scenarios I visualize in my head are so saddening I feel helpless, scared and lonely when it comes to dealing with them. I'm at a point where I don't know how to deal with them, respond to deal and what to think of them.

Has anyone else noticed if you're to talk to someone who isn't suffering they'll recommend you just ''let these thoughts go'', ''stop thinking of them'', ''learn to accept them as thoughts and nothing else''? I find it so hard talking to non-sufferers when it comes to the repetitious battle of thoughts.

Has anyone seen anything truly grotesque in their mind, in every sense of the word vile, or is it just me?
I just really need some reassurance and responses at the moment. It would be greatly appreciated to have someone tell me I'm not alone.''

I understand the feelings of doubt, suppression, depression, etc. I've been so confused lately and so scared these thoughts are to become a reality=. I tell myself things like ''I've never committed a crime, killed, etc because I've tried my absolute hardest not to''. Realistically, I haven't done much or even tried that hard to stop myself. My thoughts cause immense anxiety and strain and will NOT leave me at peace. I feel like the concept of these thoughts being ''mine'' is actually true, a reality, regardless of evident obsessions and compulsions, proved, past medication, diagnosis and PureO, I still feel like I'm not convinced these thoughts and visuals aren't mine. We'll both get through this period and I definitely do think it's PureO, but it's still so scary to try and accept the reality of these thoughts, especially when OCD can come and go.

It's very subjective but I believe PureO/OCD are/is one of the most serious conditions someone can deal with, full blown shapeshifting PureO can feel beyond excruciating and treat you like a rag-doll.

All the best friend and I hope my words helped establish something for you.

I got hocd one month ago. Over analyze for every second of the day. Do everything I can to try to stop it. But it gets worse and worse. I think of exposure technique would help so I google coming out story and it's so freaking scary. It's like me. They say when gay guys are turning gay, they would have faced a decrease in attention to girls and develop attraction to guys. And suddenly attraction to girl will be soon gone. And this hits me badly cuz at the moment I feel no attraction to girls at all. I notice every good looking guy and I don't know why. I started to accept that I was gay at the moment but every time I think of being gay, it's just not me. I get more depressed and suicidal. Next day, I went to golf class at my college as usual and I just concentrated on that. It relieves my depression. When I have a good mood, my attraction to girls comes back. This is why I know it wasn't true when ocd tells you.

Sorry for bad English. not a native.
Hope you will be fine soon.
hugs from Thailand.