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Intrusive/thoughts of harming/PureO

Postby ocd44 » Sat Nov 09, 2013 4:22 pm

Okay, so this spike started with the thought of general weaponry and harming others after reading a simple YouTube comment, ''Guns don't kill people, people kill people''.

I thought of this exact scenario -

If a loaded gun, say a 45mm pistol was sitting infront of you, what would you do with it?
Show no form of emotion or desired engagement and simply leave it infront of you for however long and overcome the reality of it just being an inanimate object?
Do you commit suicide with the weapon, shoot objects such as cans, fruit, etc...? Or ultimately, harm another person or animal?

I can't stop thinking of this thought and what I would do. I feel as though I would find it so hard to just let it sit there but at the same time I know I could never harm a person with a weapon but I'm having these intense thoughts and feelings of what personally feels like ''forced doubt'' or a ''created or unrealistic doubt''.

I have no genuine interest in hurting another person nor myself but I feel as though with this obsessive idea and these thoughts I am creating intense scenarios that make me feels as though it's what I ultimately want. I desire to see a result or am ''curious'' as to what would happen. It's really upsetting me, especially when imagining the ones dear to me hurt. I've been telling myself things like ''I wouldn't feel remorse'' - etc.

Can anyone suggest coping logical mechanisms or respond out of their own curiosity to this, please?
What are your thoughts? Has this caused you to spike too?
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Re: Intrusive/thoughts of harming/PureO

Postby Dannyboi92 » Mon Nov 11, 2013 7:59 am

I had the same thing happen to me. The thing i learned is to face the fear and just not put much attention to it anymore i still get the thoughts but they don't make me panic or get scared anymore. One thing that helped me is stop blaming things i used to blame video games/music/movies/tv/radio ect. I turned to Church and for me it helped me know what was going on with me i remembered when i was younger i used to have the thoughts and fears always had the fear of going crazy and harming others. The trigger was a comment on a video on worldstar hip-hop that said "The devil is real don't be fooled" The reason for the comment was because in the video a guy was running away from nothing he looked crazy probably struggling with a drug or something and at the end he killed himself this made me panic. My thoughts were at first "Am i saved is god with me?" I started to panic i felt my life in danger. Then after that stopped i heard on the news about a guy killing his mom and some neighbors and that made me start thinking of me harming my family or someone i know. When i had enough was when the thought made me think of me hurting my little niece. That's when everything turned around i started going church and i don't wanna bring religion but God helped me figure things out i don't have money for a therapist so God was my therapist and he did a good job i now know what are my fears and i found this page cause of god this might seem crazy and weird but this is what helped me and hopefully i given you some good feedback. I also thought i was the only person feeling like this so when i found out other people go through this i felt a lot better and this is just extra support for me.
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Re: Intrusive/thoughts of harming/PureO

Postby hiirako » Fri Nov 22, 2013 4:17 pm

Hi! I have the same thoughts sometimes. I don't think you'll actually act on these thoughts, its just apart of having OCD. It's clear you have empathy because you don't want to hurt anyone, so I don't think theres anything wrong with you.

If you really do feel like you're about to act on these thoughts though, you might want to tell someone you trust.

We all have intrusive thoughts and it's worse with OCD because we actually wonder if we'll commit these acts. I think you're fine.
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Re: Intrusive/thoughts of harming/PureO

Postby ocd44 » Sat Nov 23, 2013 3:02 am

Thank you for your input, Hiirako.

I recently suffered from these thoughts this morning again, extremely violent thoughts. I had thoughts of harming my partner in ways I had previously not ''explored'' or thought about, extremely upsetting - It went into gruesome detail, all very picturesque and it felt so realistic I was frowning and in shock, disgust and sadness. I didn't spike because I'm so used to dealing with intrusive thoughts nothing really surprises me anymore but I was having this intense urge to do something physical. I was telling myself to punch a wall or something, wake up, etc because the thought of acting these thoughts out genuinely scare me and I know I am not capable, even if I imagine myself doing them. I woke up really upset, annoyed and angry because of the previous night. I let these thoughts flood my mind when I'm upset, only adding to the distress and anxiety.

I definitely know I couldn't kill, rape, torture, etc.. But these thoughts are so intense they feel so realistic, almost below the active threshold, meaning it's a click of your fingers to act them out.

Does anyone else really suffer from this? Thoughts feeling so realistic and intense you feel as though it would be ''just so easy'' to commit such a horrible act even though you genuinely wouldn't and don't want to deal with the devastating aftershocks, alongside having no ''real'' desire?

Thank you so much
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Re: Intrusive/thoughts of harming/PureO

Postby ocd44 » Sat Nov 23, 2013 9:03 am

I have read the stickied PureO topic but.. How do you actually know it's OCD and you're not about to hurt someone out of impulse/acting on your thought? It just seems so easy

Sometimes my OCD fades to the background, rather than attack me in the foreground, this only leads to obsessions manifesting in something else when it's not as extreme, usually stronger and more vivid.. Recently it's been negative thoughts, extremely negative and violent. Layman's terms: Beyond repulsive.

I've never put anyone in danger/severely purposely hurt anyone but my thoughts feel so intense and so vicious I literally feel helpless sometimes, they're so vivid and realistic I feel like I'm about to lash out and hurt someone I love even though I never have nor have a real desire, not unless I again, create an obsession stemming from the thought ''I do want to''. I just listen to these thoughts and find it hard to not accept them for what they are, instead I apply them to myself. I feel as though myself and my OCD have reached an all time low where I'm questioning if I could act on these thoughts.

I know this will pass in a few days and my thoughts won't be as extreme, I'll be coping quite okay but for now these thoughts are plaguing me & seriously driving me insane, whilst making me extremely upset. I really don't want to have to see a therapist, I'd rather communicate with real sufferers online for little cost.

I feel as though these thoughts I've had to deal with have completely destroyed my innocence, childhood and well being, the images and immoral scenarios I visualize in my head are so saddening I feel helpless, scared and lonely when it comes to dealing with them. I'm at a point where I don't know how to deal with them, respond to deal and what to think of them.

Has anyone else noticed if you're to talk to someone who isn't suffering they'll recommend you just ''let these thoughts go'', ''stop thinking of them'', ''learn to accept them as thoughts and nothing else''? I find it so hard talking to non-sufferers when it comes to the repetitious battle of thoughts.

Has anyone seen anything truly grotesque in their mind, in every sense of the word vile, or is it just me?
I just really need some reassurance and responses at the moment. It would be greatly appreciated to have someone tell me I'm not alone. Some words would mean a lot

Thanks again
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