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Father/Daughter Therapy

Postby Dove91801 » Wed Nov 30, 2011 5:32 pm

This is a nightmare. N dad goes into the office and completely manipulates the counselor. Now my 17 year old daughter is convinced that "something is wrong with me". It seems that the LCSW just agreed with my husband on everything and he says so as well.

I called the counselor today and told her that the counseling is making things worse, she wants me to come in next time with them. She says that she is trying to make my daughter see that she has some responsibility in this as well. I am so angry, but at the same time I realize that a therapist only sees a glimpse into a family and can't see the whole picture. Why are these people so good at making themselves look good and everyone else look like they need help?

Does any therapist understand narcissistic traits?
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Re: Father/Daughter Therapy

Postby EmmaLev » Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:45 pm

I doubt that therapists encounter narcissists very often, as they don't seem the type to seek therapy. I have a narcissist family member and it's very difficult for her to admit that she's wrong, generally. Have you told the therapist that your daughter's father is a narcissist? Was he diagnosed by this particular therapist?
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Re: Father/Daughter Therapy

Postby margharris » Sat Dec 03, 2011 12:09 am

This is a very crucial time for your daughter. Your therapist is likely to know this fact. Your daughter needs to bond with her father. He holds the key to her future partner success or failure. She learns where and how to feel cherished from her father in that male/female way. You have got her to this point but it is the father that holds the key to unlock her womanhood. When he has valued her, then she learns to value herself and make wiser choices. She will definitely fight you all the way. This time with her father is so important. Don't think the counsellor is feeding your daughter. She will take a pro father perspective because this is her need and her time. Her father is the first male relationship in her life. It would be selfish to deny her or try and taint her views. She will want you to stay together for her own reasons.
Having marital conflict unleashes chaos. This is an example. You need to let go of the need to control others views. It doesn't really help by providing labels either. It suggests you just want confirmation that things are over and you were right. That amounts to external approval. This is not a perspective a therapist is likely to take. Therapy is work. You learn to take ownership of only what you do and how you react.
Remember too, holding onto grudges from the past to validate how you feel today isn't a successful life strategy. You are in therapy to build better relationships by learning about yourself. You need to let go of the idea of therapy being only about proving the other wrong and forcing them to do things differently. I know it is hard but you can achieve huge rewards in personal growth if you can navigate through this turbulent time. Possibly you need to ask yourself what outcome you are really after.
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Re: Father/Daughter Therapy

Postby Dove91801 » Thu Dec 08, 2011 6:38 pm

Thank you for your responses. No, my husband was not diagnosed and will not seek any type of treatment.

Marg-thanks for your perspective. This is very difficult for all of us, that is for sure. I
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Re: Father/Daughter Therapy

Postby iamherenow » Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:12 pm

Therapists don't really see beyond what the patients tell them, and I have found that most therapists are scared of narcissists or don't want to exert themselves too much to challenge the narcissists. I think narcissists are really difficult to challenge, and the challenger has to be prepared mentally in order to take on a narcissist. But many psychotherapists really don't want this much of a challenge in their therapy sessions. It's too much emotional work; it takes too much time. They would rather just go with the flow and pick up their co-pay check and nod their heads agreably to keep abusive patients happy. The psychotherapits are essentially complicit with the narcissists and they encourage the abusive behavior up to a point.
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