this guy

http://www.reignitethefire.net/dating-g ... -disorder/

as if there's an actual market for people wanting to date borderlines

not bad advice i must say. lol

The word borderline makes me queasy.

Dated one once.. physicality was top notch.. attention was there for me.. but in the end it was just too much drama. She would spit out lines about needing me to help her for some specific ridiculous errand and then get mad when i say no.. She would try to extract emotions out of me, basically.

You can trash borderlines all you want.
I know most of you don't even have NPd just like most of the bpds over there are fake.

This whole place is #######4.

green m+m wrote:You can trash borderlines all you want.
I know most of you don't even have NPd just like most of the bpds over there are fake.

This whole place is #######4.

Basically what the guy says is, the problem is you and not the borderline.

I don't agree with the trend of many Narcissists to demean Borderlines, or to put Borderlines beneath them. At the same time, I disagree with the tendency of some Borderlines to put Narcissists beneath them. The reality is that the two disorders are two sides of the same coin. Both disorders involve people who have decided that their true self is inadequate or bad, and that as a consequence either over-invest in building a "self" for themselves (NPD), or under-invest in the same (BPD). The Borderline's emotional dysregulation is no more disordered than the Narcissist's emotional desert. The two are ultimately siblings and should not attack each other, but rather find solace in those who are actually quite similar to themselves.

Unique Username wrote:She would try to extract emotions out of me, basically.

Can relate. It's an endless loop.

WendyTorrance wrote:

Unique Username wrote:She would try to extract emotions out of me, basically.

Can relate. It's an endless loop.

Yes, this is true. But out of the Borderline partners or friends I've had, I've found that it's a rather good match because there's not much emotion to extract from me.

One reason it might be a good match.

Esquire wrote:I don't agree with the trend of many Narcissists to demean Borderlines, or to put Borderlines beneath them. At the same time, I disagree with the tendency of some Borderlines to put Narcissists beneath them. The reality is that the two disorders are two sides of the same coin. Both disorders involve people who have decided that their true self is inadequate or bad, and that as a consequence either over-invest in building a "self" for themselves (NPD), or under-invest in the same (BPD). The Borderline's emotional dysregulation is no more disordered than the Narcissist's emotional desert. The two are ultimately siblings and should not attack each other, but rather find solace in those who are actually quite similar to themselves.

Now that you point this out, they really are quite similar in origin when you think about it. Even laymen often note the frequent coexistence of Cluster B disorders within families; this implies the possibility of a common etiology. Masterson has some words about this in the video I linked several days ago; we consider the borderline more disordered, but they are simply different forms of disorder. As he and many others have also said, this is probably a result of the tendency of our culture to value professional achievement and ambition over the integrity of personal relationships.

As with true siblings, if only it were as simple as, "Get along, you two."

One can dream, Esquire. One can dream.

Ember wrote:Now that you point this out, they really are quite similar in origin when you think about it. Even laymen often note the frequent coexistence of Cluster B disorders within families; this implies the possibility of a common etiology. Masterson has some words about this in the video I linked several days ago; we consider the borderline more disordered, but they are simply different forms of disorder. As he and many others have also said, this is probably a result of the tendency of our culture to value professional achievement and ambition over the integrity of personal relationships.

Yes, and I quite enjoyed that video that you posted. I liked the way that Masterson approached the Narcissist and the Borderline clinically and not judgmentally.

In terms of the Cluster B disorders, they are all somewhat related, but I think that NPD and BPD are related in a very intimate way, and HPD and AsPD are also related in a similarly intimate way (and yes, I still believe in HPD, despite the DSM).

Esquire wrote:I've found that it's a rather good match because there's not much emotion to extract from me.

Exactly. And how do you think that feels like.
It really looks like there is something, so one can think of who is right and who is wrong.
(you're right, of course)