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I feel like I'm narcissistic, and I can't trust anyone

Postby arknd » Mon Aug 04, 2014 5:06 am

I'm going to be honest. I'm not a nice person. I'm manipulative, selfish, emotionally distant, and judgmental. Narcissistic is a good word for it. Because of my own behavior, part of me feels like everyone else acts the same way.

I feel like no one can be trusted. Everyone only interacts with other people to use them for personal gain. I suppose it's fair that I feel like I get treated the same way I treat others, but don't i get some kind of reward for being aware of my behavior?

Because of my outlook. I haven't been able to form an lasting bonds or relationships with other people. Not because I am using them, but because I feel like they are using me for something I don't know about.

Is this common? I don't have any terrible childhood experiences. I think this is just who I am.
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Re: I feel like I'm narcissistic, and I can't trust anyone

Postby BPM606060 » Mon Aug 04, 2014 5:37 am

The truth is that your own betterment is quite often predicated upon a mutual gain from people close around you. The only reason a corporation, a military, or a gang is powerful is through the interconnecting unities that exist within them.

The reason you think you cannot trust anyone is because you have yet to truly understand what trust means, in any meaningful sense.
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Re: I feel like I'm narcissistic, and I can't trust anyone

Postby arknd » Mon Aug 04, 2014 5:47 am

What does trust mean to you, then?
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Re: I feel like I'm narcissistic, and I can't trust anyone

Postby BPM606060 » Mon Aug 04, 2014 5:57 am

It means will there be a favorable win/win situational ration with the person or institution you are interacting with. Obviously not the easiest thing to deduce , but there are in fact alliances worth the effort
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Re: I feel like I'm narcissistic, and I can't trust anyone

Postby InSpiritus » Mon Aug 04, 2014 7:15 am

Like that.
arknd wrote:What does trust mean to you, then?


It means that you will follow through, you will be someone I can rely on, you will give a sh!t about me as a human being as I will for you. If not. And you betray me? Your entrails are mine to do with as I wish. You will not lie to me.

Trust is earned. Easily broken. And generally not a wise choice to trust someone who has already betrayed you without good cause. It can depend on the situation. People make mistakes, once not 10000 times the same thing.

If you cannot trust anyone else, it is perhaps because you cannot be trusted? What do you think? You are perhaps projecting your own actions on another and that is the mirror you are looking at? So where is the problem?
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Re: I feel like I'm narcissistic, and I can't trust anyone

Postby creative_nothing » Mon Aug 04, 2014 2:16 pm

Trust issue is common among all PDs, except for histrionics and dependents. And to be honest NPD is not the most severe on it.

Now if you think you are "manipulative, selfish, emotionally distant, and judgmental" you are unlikely narcissistic. The narcissist is the "victim".
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Re: I feel like I'm narcissistic, and I can't trust anyone

Postby BPM606060 » Tue Aug 05, 2014 3:10 am

creative_nothing wrote:
Now if you think you are "manipulative, selfish, emotionally distant, and judgmental" you are unlikely narcissistic.

I prefer the terms persuasive, self respecting, relaxed, and perceptive :D
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Re: I feel like I'm narcissistic, and I can't trust anyone

Postby creative_nothing » Tue Aug 05, 2014 6:15 am

bipolarmusician wrote:
creative_nothing wrote:
Now if you think you are "manipulative, selfish, emotionally distant, and judgmental" you are unlikely narcissistic.

I prefer the terms persuasive, self respecting, relaxed, and perceptive :D

Exactly. : :lol:
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