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Re: Why invite psychopaths

Postby myopicdreams » Mon Apr 11, 2011 10:21 am

Dear Greentea, I can really understand your anger at "psychopaths" especially when you are still grieving the lost of someone beautiful from your life. I also lost an amazing person to murder by someone who probably has ASD and I have felt the rage of how unfair and wasteful it is.

I wonder, though, what you would propose we do with Antisocials? Also, I would like to assure you that people with this PD come in all kinds, shapes, and sizes. Not all of them commit crimes, not all of them are completely lacking in care for other people or living beings, and not all of them are hopeless cases that we must give up on. Even more than that, not one of them was born with this PD greentea. Each one was born with the same innate potential to be good or bad that you and me and everyone else is born with. ASD is not a disorder that anyone chooses to have, it MUST have an onset in childhood or early adolescence, and it mostly happens to children who grow up in circumstances that are so awful that their identity and emotional systems become fragmented and incapable of working properly.

Please know that ASD people almost always have very sad and ugly lives when they are unable to achieve some degree of personal control and self-management. Even they do not want to be unhappy, no matter if they want help because of selfishness or if it is because they want to be better people, any help they seek is good for all of us in society as well as for themselves.

ASD is often regarded as untreatable but there are ways that they can improve their symptoms, learn to act with empathy even if they can't feel it, and ultimately become productive citizens with satisfying lives that do not harm anyone. It is partially because of support forums such as these that ASD people are able to find help learning how to live in a world that doesn't like, want, or understand them. Having social support drastically increases the likelihood of a good outcome for any person, and it is just as true for ASD as it is for depression or PTSD or anything else.

I personally feel better with the knowledge that these people have a community where they can seek to heal and improve their condition while feeling free to experience their truth in the ways that they know it to be. I hope that you will one day find peace with these people and with your position as a person who must share the world with them.
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Re: Why invite psychopaths

Postby Onebravegirl » Mon Apr 11, 2011 6:59 pm

Green tea, this site is meant for people with all types of Mental Health issues, to Express themselves and Explore their condition. It is also meant for those who live with or know someone with an Illness. It is a support forum. It is not a "your only welcome here if you say you want to change forum". If you are having a problem with certain members here, the appropriate and Healthy thing to do is to Pm one of the staff so we can mediate.
If it had been An ASPD creating a thread saying that YOU and YOUR Illness didnt belong here, how would you feel? You would have been insulted. Your disrespect for them is the exact reason why they dislike some Nons here. How would you feel if someone refused to acknowledge your Condition?
The ASPD's have as much right here as you any other type of Illness does. They are people-Human Beings-not monsters. And not all Psychopaths have the capability or desire to spend their time on a Forum, making connections with one another. Sometimes they may seem unpleasant to Nons, but they are in more control of themselves than those we read of in the news. I think you need to either broaden your understanding of them, or broaden your understanding of yourself and why this group upsets you so much.
Like any other group here, they are individual people and much more than just their diagnosis.
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Re: Why invite psychopaths

Postby Twinkling Butterfly » Fri Apr 15, 2011 9:47 pm

I might be tempted to play the race card, but, you know...
chickadee wrote:
Marquis wrote:Socially the ASPD is outcast once discovered as being different. Since this is not a physical "abnormallity" discovery takes longer, but the results are none the less severe then it was two centuries ago with "negros". They were labelled "less than human" and "not to be trusted". Your society has started to outgrow this concept. Without offense I pose "In another two-hundred years will you begin to understand that although different our thoughts and actions are OK?"
Maybe it would be different if being black made it easier to kill people without internal consequence, but that is not the case. :roll:
But I must ask the OP, 1.) what do you think they would be doing if they weren't discussing the importance of morality online with prosocials? And...
green_tea wrote:That's the single biggest reason I censor everything I write here and will eventually just leave. I would NEVER get personal with anyone here due to the presence of these psychopaths.
...2.) would you get personal at a site where the psychopaths don't tell you they're psychopaths?
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Re: Why invite psychopaths

Postby Onebravegirl » Fri Apr 15, 2011 9:54 pm

Green tea has left the forum. This was here thread so I see no need to keep it open to further discussion.
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