Lets Discuss Aliens

Alright so lets forget about the creation of humans.

How do you explain the UFOs and Alien spacecrafts found in ancient art and cave paintings?

ufos and lights in the sky could be anything, its an unexplained phenomenon. your made up explanation isn't better than anyone else's.

sublyp wrote:ufos and lights in the sky could be anything, its an unexplained phenomenon. your made up explanation isn't better than anyone else's.

'The Crucifixion' Painted in 1350.

Because that looks like a light in the sky hu?

Did you even look at the link or any other evidence for that matter? Cause if you haven't you can't really debate this.

YarlSoutan wrote:'The Crucifixion' Painted in 1350.

Because that looks like a light in the sky hu?

Did you even look at the link or any other evidence for that matter? Cause if you haven't you can't really debate this.

http://sprezzatura.it/Arte/Arte_UFO_eng.htm
http://www.ufomystic.com/wake-up-down-t ... paintings/
http://www.nonapritequelportale.com/?q=node/283

sublyp wrote:

YarlSoutan wrote:'The Crucifixion' Painted in 1350.

Because that looks like a light in the sky hu?

Did you even look at the link or any other evidence for that matter? Cause if you haven't you can't really debate this.

http://sprezzatura.it/Arte/Arte_UFO_eng.htm
http://www.ufomystic.com/wake-up-down-t ... paintings/
http://www.nonapritequelportale.com/?q=node/283

Excellent point. Alrighty im convinced that some of the UFO's in artwork are just 'symbols'.

But I thought you didn't believe in God? How do you explain the global association with Gods and the skies? I mean, I know the sun is the life giver, but in almost every religion the gods are said to have come from the skies to impart wisdom on mankind.

humans have always been fascinated by space and its unknown territory. It is not impossible to let your imagination loose about such things and invent stories about aliens and such coming from space. Not all drawings should be interpreted literally. A lot of them are symbolic. Also keep in mind that a lot of primitive tribes used to use (even till today) psychoactive drugs like psilocybes and other magic shrooms in order to come closer to their "Gods". Many such substances are known to "introduce" weird creatures resembling "aliens" into the mind during a trance and psychedelic experiences. There was a scientist (can't remember his name) in the 60s who devoted his life to investigation how psychedelic substances like LSD and shrooms work on the mind. He had many experiences, even with tribes deep in the Amazon's forests, and there were always strange creatures present in the mind during such psychedelic moments. This is not direct prove that aliens have been here and somehow left their mark deep down in the human unconsciousness that comes up when one uses psychedelic substances only. The mind creates and distorts known images to the point that they look foreign or strange to it during such moments.

YarlSoutan wrote:But I thought you didn't believe in God? How do you explain the global association with Gods and the skies? I mean, I know the sun is the life giver, but in almost every religion the gods are said to have come from the skies to impart wisdom on mankind.

some from the water too, but where else could gods come from? early civilizations always believe in some sort of gods, and none of them know what's up in the sky, its heaven. and the sun is sort of the source of life, making plants grow, heat, etc. why not thank it? Humans make up supernatural explanations for unexplained stuff all the time, but much more so when there was no explanation about how we got here on earth.

Those interested should read how the mind creates God. The article is not perfect and leaves some things open, but there's great process going on in explaining how and why the mind does such things. I'm confident that as neuroscience develops further, it will explain to us a lot of things. Sadly, there will always be people who'll attack such things due to sheer ignorance and resistance to accept something. As I once mentioned, humans by nature NEED something much stronger to guide them or else they feel all alone and despair. It is very difficult for a lot of people to accept the possibility that there may be nothing out there and that there may be no God at all or if there is, it's possible that this God does not work AT ALL like humans think it/he does.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg2 ... ?full=true

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Jer wrote:Does it take any validity away from those concepts? No. Does it make them false, negated, disproven, or otherwise discredited? No. That is the lamest, most cowardly way to attack God, religion, or anything else for that matter. I do know my evolution, by the way. I have some reservations. Punctuated equilibrium never did sit right with me, among other things...

I don't think its trying to though... it's just kind of showing how that stuff arises naturally when were left to our own devices. you could use it as insight on all the little religions that pop up among jungle tribes if you wanted to.