HPD due to 'nature,' HPD due to 'nurture' ?

Everyone has probably heard that in ASPD there are widely considered to exist two models
(1) Psychopaths. Normal upbringing, but due to presumed genetics and different brain structures they exhibit behaviors conforming to the "Psychopathy Checklist."
(2) Sociopaths. Forced by circumstance to grow up within poor environments, ones that make antisocial and criminal behavior adaptive. Otherwise, their genetic inheritance and brain structure are within the normal range of variation.
Of course this is a simplification, in order to clearly illustrate main causes due to "nature" or "nurture;" in reality, both nature and nurture play some unknown part in most people's final expression of personality.
But this all got me thinking: since other Cluster B disorders share many things in common, might the other disorders also have two different subclasses of causality? So we could have an HPD person whose disorder is due more to inheritance, and another whose origin is due more to family environments.
HPDs in whom it is more nature: "Endohistrionic;" those from nature: "Exohistrionic."
And, as I stated before, the majority of HPD origins being due to both nature and nurture, in whatever fraction: "Ambihistrionic."

Hi orion -

My personal belief (and unprovable) is that, psychopaths aside (there does seem to be some objectively measurable brain dysfunction), most of us are products of nature and nurture. So a product is no different then what we learned in elementary school. The product of 3x4 is 12. So is 4x3, 2x6, 6x2, 1x12, and 12x1. Problem is we get to see the result of the product in someone's personality, but it is very hard to know from the product what much nature vs nurture played a result in that particular individual. In other words, it's very possible that some are more or less inclined to develop a personality disorder, but may or may not depending on their upbringing and life experiences.

While it's entirely possible for a person to be born/inherit the "lucky" combination of genes and mental hardwiring that leads to a PD, that same predisposition that originates the mental state is also the affecting nurture factor since the genes were inherited from a parent(s). The only situation that could isolate the two from each other is if the parent was deceased at time of birth or had absolutely no contact with the disordered individual.

IMO, I don't see how it's possible to single out one factor alone.

It's very much a case of the chicken and the egg. Disordered parents would be likely to be dysfunctional anyway, making it impossible to see the distinction between nature and nurture. I'm wondering if there have actually been any studies of twins with PDs who have been separated at birth?

I'm not even sure when it comes to psychopathy (except in cases of brain damage) because nothing has proven those differences automatically lead to psychopathy.

With HPD, tbh my personal opinion would be again there would be a type of person predisposed to HPD but actually developing it would require certain environmental factors, and possibly those factors wouldn't necessarily differentiate between whether it would be HPD or another related PD.

The other options people would overlook are naturally gregarious, extroverted females may be interpreted as HPD and misdiagnosed that way,

cultural norms mean a woman trying to get sex, (disordered or non-disordered) would be led to believe HPD type behaviour was the most efficient way to get this (correctly - it is in this culture.) - again, more misdiagnosis.

If people try to believe the genetic evolution theory, the suggestion would have to be "women who actively seek and compete for mates", which would only relate to HPD in the context those women are socialized to believe appropriate mate-seeking behaviour mimics HPD, the attention-seeking need would be absent and the behaviour would be driven purely by "mating instincts". - again, misdiagnosis.

The alternatives are generally about women there because its rare for men to be misdiagnosed with HPD, or even diagnosed at all.

nurture.