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Re: Co-conscious?

Postby sev0n » Tue May 22, 2012 1:25 am

I have NEVER been able to read the thoughts of any alter be it host, ANP, EP, Fragment or anything else!

I can ask them what they are thinking.

I can be influenced by their thoughts. Hope LOVES candy and Cheese!

But it not like I can read their thoughts in any way that I know of.

Was that in the video?
I am going to go and listen on my netbook.
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Re: Co-conscious?

Postby SnakeskinSoul » Tue May 22, 2012 1:40 am

For us, it's like a fuzzy, sort of distant feeling. I'm aware, but I'm also aware of someone else... and they're aware of me. And we swap this feeling of mutual awareness, and it's rather odd. I'm usually the one controlling the physical motions, but the other is usually the one controlling the mental half of things. I can speak for them, and they can speak for me. We both just sort of "know" what the other is up to.

I think that's naturally how we are-- it's rare for one of the others to completely take over. It happened a few times back in HS, but it has only happened once in the last five years or so. Most of the time, we would walk around like we were in a huge fog.
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Re: Co-conscious?

Postby SamsLand » Tue May 22, 2012 3:22 am

Thanks for this I was not distinguishing co-consciousness and co-presence. I realize I am co-con with some but only co-pres with others. I think this also depends somewhat on what we both want and whether we are functional "sharing space". I think some of us have learned or chosen not to be co together. Not sure.

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And Johnny-Jack, clear, good, peaceful co-consciousness fuels denial. Bang on. Tx.
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Re: Co-conscious?

Postby hoping4answers » Tue May 22, 2012 2:25 pm

Thanks everyone for giving more of an insight as to what these definitions are. It can get confusing.
Only because this has been a point people have harped on.........Susie, with Miss Ann (our caretaker) was out on that stage. My little ones are almost never out without her present, especially in new, scary environments. Susie was trying to be brave and talk about what she needs to heal.
Miss Ann is annoyed that such a minute detail would call into question our reliability. I guess for Miss Ann and Susie that would be co-presence. As for me it is still Time loss because I wasn't aware of what was happening at the time. Not saying it is being questioned here, it's just we can't comment on the message boards without getting very very angry! :oops:

Tylas....thanks for the continued education on the message boards it means so much to me and others that you are strong enough get on there and put people in their place! :lol:
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Re: Co-conscious?

Postby sev0n » Tue May 22, 2012 3:49 pm

hoping4answers wrote:Thanks everyone for giving more of an insight as to what these definitions are. It can get confusing.
Only because this has been a point people have harped on.........Susie, with Miss Ann (our caretaker) was out on that stage. My little ones are almost never out without her present, especially in new, scary environments. Susie was trying to be brave and talk about what she needs to heal.
Miss Ann is annoyed that such a minute detail would call into question our reliability. I guess for Miss Ann and Susie that would be co-presence. As for me it is still Time loss because I wasn't aware of what was happening at the time. Not saying it is being questioned here, it's just we can't comment on the message boards without getting very very angry! :oops:

Tylas....thanks for the continued education on the message boards it means so much to me and others that you are strong enough get on there and put people in their place! :lol:


You are SO very welcome Tracy!!!!

Keep in mind that what people do not understand, they will try and discredit! Their replies only shows their ignorance. You did what is! You DO HAVE DID - your T has DX'd you with it! What you display IS DID! Period! Don't forget that! Ignorance is everywhere.

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Re: Co-conscious?

Postby watcheroflights » Tue May 22, 2012 5:24 pm

tylas
What are your views on co-fronting.I know this happens with us when the system,others,are working well together.
Example, there was a needed to put a new floor in our place but for me,the core, there was health issue that made it hard for me to do this but one of the others which pain is not an issue came out and we work together to get the job done.It would have taken me alone several days to do the job but with my others help it was done in a few hours.We were both up front and were talking to each other about the project and working together on this project. Do others co-front with their others,alters,aspects?
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Re: Co-conscious?

Postby ericpoeperic » Tue May 22, 2012 9:47 pm

My partner will play games on his tablet with alters (one likes to play blackjack) and sometimes him and his gatekeeper will draw pictures together or write messages, and he will take over a write a message back.
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Re: Co-conscious?

Postby sev0n » Wed May 23, 2012 4:23 am

Watcher,

That is a good question. I actually have never read a definition of the co's in the books I have read - that I can recall. I looked at the glossary in this group that several members contributed to.
dissociative-identity/topic66890.html


Co-Consciousness/Co-Awareness - when two or more persons are aware of what each other they are doing (and often feeling/thinking, etc).

Co-Hosting - when more than one person is out at once.

Co-Present/Co-Presence - when two or more persons are present, but not really aware of each other, or, not able to communicate with each other.

Co-Fronting is not in there yet or at least not in the first posts.



All these co's are confusing and at least for me - change so fast, I can't keep up! They are either being Co or Not! imho! :D

E. Howell also talks of Co-participation.
"Facilitating Co-consciousness and Co-participation in the Treatment"
http://www.psychoanalysisarena.com/unde ... 0415994972
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Re: Co-conscious?

Postby Sotrsab » Wed May 23, 2012 7:27 am

The other day, my SO & I were talking. Actually, this has been happening lots lately bc this particular little has been out more than me, but anyway, He was talking with me & I responded. He said something else & my little responded. It kept going back & forth like that & all three of us were laughing throughout. It was nice bc usually I' still am so embarrassed about switching.

You've inspired me to color with my little. :)
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Re: Co-conscious?

Postby watcheroflights » Wed May 23, 2012 2:35 pm

tylas
This may not be the right word for what is going on with us.This happens all the time.The littles and me do the co- fronting thing all the time.We are bad about getting up early in the morning and watching cartoons on the computer together. :mrgreen: The littles enjoy being able to push the buttons.You could say this is our special time together but no matter what lable one puts on it we are together doing thing.Sometimes to many fingers at the key board does cause problems, everyone wants their turn. :D Some time we do science programs for kids in our community.I do not do well speaking in front of groups of people but the two olders can come out,speak with the children and I handle the tech support you could say.We are all doing this together.Me trying to speak before a group alone I freeze up but the two olders breeze right through it.
I guess in some ways the olders keep me from looking like a total coward and make it possible to do things I would never attempt on my own.Hope this make sense. :oops:
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