Do alters sometimes lie?

I know, I've just made a post yesterday... but it's raised some questions in my mind...

A year ago, one of my alters had apparently came out during a therapy session and complained about being raped. My therapist knows this, and choice to either ignore it, or just waited for me to come out and deny it happening? He mentioned this again at my last session, and tells me that its' all just a part of my "fantasy" world, that if I'm strongly denying that it happened, then it must not have happened.

But this alter seems to continue to say that she's been raped. She even says it on some of her own website accounts, and other places and to other people. (That's what got me stuck in therapy the first time. She told my mom that she had been raped, and my mom took us to therapy straight away!) I don't want to say that she's lying... but... can an alter lie? I mean, it just doesn't make sense! I've never been raped, and I can't recall anything at all, and what she's saying doesn't seem to fit right with anything. It's just so out there. I don't know if it's true, or if she's exaggerating or anything.

I'm worried about how she'd react if I straight up called her a liar, and from reading other threads here, I know alters don't think too highly of that. But, this is just so random and out there, and I don't even recall ANY of the therapy sessions from last year at all! If I do have an alter, could she be blowing something else out of proportion?

I would take the possibility of it being real seriously. If you do have DID then the whole point of it is so you don't remember stuff, bad stuff. It's not fantasy or lies just because you can't remember. DID isn't a delusional state, it's a real disorder. Your therapist sounds like one of those who doesn't believe in DID. Also look up the legal definition of rape, it's a lot broader definition than what immediately springs to mind. You won't know what exactly happened unless you get more details from your alter. But for the question of can alters lie, do they lie, I don't know. X

I agree with Kerry. There could be a language/definition issue. I'm getting information from my alters that I worry too are lies, or not lies but not quite truths in the sense that we see them. I have a little that fears my mom wants to kill us but remember being little and thinking your parents were going to "kill you" for something you did. I am not sure it is this. But I sense the fear in the alter, so I ...

We come to protect you from things that might be hard for you to deal with. Maybe ask your alter (if you are ready) to provide you with something small (information) to help you know that it is real. Being called a liar won't help.

I wouldn't have very reliable insight, but IMO, alters are like many people (some of us call that souls) living inside one body. So, like normal people, alters lie.

Thank you, I hadn't thought about it being a language issue before.

I just don't feel comfortable knowing that she's telling other people about this. And if it's true, I think I didn't want to know, and I still don't want to know. I was better when I didn't know! And I feel like she's not telling me, directly. She's telling other people, and asking for help about it. Since she has different forum/website accounts that are connected to my email address, I have been able to view the things she's posted, and she's even claiming that she'd been raped recently. By someone that I don't know exists.

Is this something she's trying to work out for herself, or does she want me involved? I'm really confused and it's really scaring me if all of this is actually true! It doesn't make sense logically.

Rawiyah wrote:Is this something she's trying to work out for herself, or does she want me involved?

Ask her?

Rawiyah wrote:and tells me that its' all just a part of my "fantasy" world, that if I'm strongly denying that it happened, then it must not have happened.

What a load of bullsh*t....

Yes alters lie, just as hosts lie. And singleton's lie.

But it's more likely to be that it is a truth for this alter and the therapist saying this is absolutely bang out of order.

I am responding to this question from the point of view of a parent. If my child tells me she was raped I would (a) desperately want to disbelieve her and (b) in fact believe her and respond accordingly. Unfortunately, many parents pick the easier choice (a) and retreat into denial. They would rather believe their precious children are liars, or mistaking dreams as fact, than admit the reality and all the emotional pain and suffering that goes with it.

Believe what your alters tell you or, if you cannot do that, then at least suspend judgment.

Trigger,
Non Did here,
Difficult subject to talk about, A possibility from somethings ive read, Una,, input on my thoughts after the fact please.
If one of your alters was having sex at one time and you switched to that alter, she may have the perception of rape. With this happening you would have no memory of a rape, but the other alter might have percieved it that way.
Ive read that you must make sure littles are not around at these times, using the same theory, because it can scare them and they will not know whats going on..
Just a theory from a non DID

Yes, there can be a subjective experience of rape by one alter during sex consented to by another alter. This is especially common when there is an alter who was created for the purpose of surviving a rape, in which case the subjective experience is a re-enactment. Usually when an alter first comes out and reports a trauma, it is an original trauma.

In all these scenarios, the alter's subjective experience should be accepted as such. The only difference among these scenarios is what approach to take to the other person.

mow59 wrote: If one of your alters was having sex at one time and you switched to that alter, she may have the perception of rape. With this happening you would have no memory of a rape, but the other alter might have percieved it that way.
Ive read that you must make sure littles are not around at these times, using the same theory, because it can scare them and they will not know whats going on..
Just a theory from a non DID

I haven't thought of it like that at all. I guess I'll just have to ask her to see what more information I get. But I'm pretty sure I haven't had any sexual encounters with anyone. I'm kind of new to the possibility of having DID, it's a lot to handle right now.

Thank you so much for the information!