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New alter or not? I dunno MAY TRIGGER?

Postby Amenacer » Tue Oct 18, 2011 11:48 pm

Hey everyone

First of all, I find it hard to judge what triggeres another, so just in case with this post, the may trigger warning.
I have a question that I hope someone can help me answer.
How do you determine whether the newly discovered alter is new or just unfamiliar to eh... you're main group so to say?
Lately I ran into (or rather my boyfriend did) one alter that seems to be triggered by sex. She was just there all of a sudden. I can't seem to get any information within me on her (which is strange and very unsettling). So far she's only present at the trigger moments and she doesn't really carry a conversation suitable for all ears and ages. With her I just wonder whether she was there before or that she's new.
I also have these encounters with someone (mostly in my head or in my dreams) that is sad, gutwrenching it is, and jealous and very angry of/at my boyfriend.He seems inconsolable and has a desperate need to be loved and fears being told of, but most of all he fears being left alone or being badly hurt. When I give him a lot of attention he stops crying but I can't remember what happens then.
I fear this may be an alter that was created because the period I just went through. My boyfriend was very depressed to the point of being suicidal and had thoughts of killing me and my little girl. This almost escalated. Since then my system has been in survival-mode sort of and acting different than I'm used to.
Now that things slowly improving at home I started noticing Mara for myself somewhat.But the sad young man.... I can't get a feel for him. I can't feel whether he's near or far to the front or close to me (sorry if this is confusing), I can't feel his emotions when he's not actively talking to me and none of the other answer me when I ask them if they know him or know something about him. I just go dead inside.
With Mara it's just that the others had some info, but simply don't know anythingmore about her. They don't know where she came from nor do I. She simply smiles and goes away if my boyfriend asks her.

Maybe someone has some ideas?

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Daguir, Illiyana ( end thirties), Selas (7 or 14), Mara, Ferris (19), Falcon (19), Simon (lover of panda's maybe 5 yrs), Malegra(3 or 4), Malis, Amenacer, Liz (25) , Liza and some not yet willing to have their names mentioned. Not willing to identify by color-coding yet either.
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Re: New alter or not? I dunno MAY TRIGGER?

Postby tomboy24 » Wed Oct 19, 2011 3:41 pm

It's hard to tell sometimes when an alter is new, re-surfacing, or just new to your awareness. I thought I knew everyone when I knew about 4 of my alters (including the original core). There was Kat, Rain, L.C., and Cassie. Then I learned about one more alter and I was aware of 5 for awhile. Then I learned about another, so that made 6, and then another, so that made 7, and then I learned about 2 more after that for a total of 10! One of them, "Hannibal", is good at hiding, so that's why I didn't realize he existed until later on. 2 of them, Kyra and Rebel, are re-surfacing ones, one of which I didn't realize I even had. One, Ray, didn't start to noticeably show up until later and it was hard to learn about her since she came and went so quickly, so that's why I didn't learn about her earlier on. And the other, Lynn, I'm still not sure about, because she seems to be a new split off of Cassie but at the same time she could simply be one that I was never aware of.

I can't feel the presence of "Hannibal", Kyra, or Rebel, and so far they've only come out when triggered. I can't "see" them, I can't hear them, and I don't think they can hear me or anyone else. Though I've learned where Kyra and Rebel come from, no one in my system knows where "Hannibal" came from, or much about him (hence why he doesn't even have a real name). I "lose time" when any of them come "out".

With Lynn, I'm aware of her but I still lose time when she comes "out", and so far I'm not able to consciously switch with her yet, so she also only comes out when triggered. She came into my awareness after I moved from my apartment into a house with roommates, and I was feeling very cramped and uncomfortable since I was used to living by myself. I just wanted to go home, and that's all she ever seems to want. So I'm not sure if she was created due to that period of time, or if she was always there and was just triggered into awareness due to that period of time.

I'm sure this is of no help to you, but I wanted to at least let you know that you're not alone in your wonders or questions.

If you're able to, try talking to them, or even writing a note, or if you have others that you're able to talk to, see if they can talk to them. Try to find out more about them, perhaps how old they are, and if they know, how long they've been around. Sometimes age can help you get an idea for how long they've been around as well. Cassie's 8 even though I split from her at age 10, mainly because she's afraid of being 10 "again", but also because she simply has more of an 8-yr-old mindset and needs. L.C. used to be 13 because that's when she came into existence. Ray is 10 because she doesn't know exactly how old she is, but she's been around since the body was 10 so she's been around for 10 years. So age might help to give you an idea of how long they've been around. But it's different with each system, so take that idea with a grain of salt.

On a side note, I certainly hope that your boyfriend is better and that you and your little girl are safe. I also hope that in case he should go through that period again, you're able to keep yourself and your little girl safe and have saftey plans, such as numbers to call and places to go in case your safety's at risk as it seems it was before.

It just occurred to me, does it really matter if an alter is new or simply new to your main group? Either way they're new in one sense or another. Even those in your main group were new to you at some point in time, so other new ones shouldn't be treated any differently. I can understand curiosity about if they're new or simply new to your awareness, but it doesn't really change how you "handle" them, I guess is what I'm trying to say. Try to learn more about them, try to help them with their unmet needs, and try to accept them as part of you just like any others you already know about (your main group). If it's possible, help them to become part of your main group so that you may all work together as a functioning system. I wish you the best of luck with this, and hope that you're able to receive more helpful advice than I was able to give. But at least know that you're not alone in having new alters, whether they're new or simply new to your awareness. :)
| Cassandra; Kat/Kataki; Rain/Riyoku; Shay/Shadow; L.C. & Luna; Ray; Cassie; Lynn |
| Prism |
| Marie; Valera; Phenix (Rebel); Dallas & Damone; Kyra; "Blank"; Bridgette; Cassidy |
| "Hannibal"; "Big Ryan"/Ryan; Keith/"Little Ryan"; Kuro |
| Hawk ; The Doctor |
| Aurora (mermaid), werewolf, silent one, black ponytail, Kichijoten, The Master |
| Maiingan |
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Re: New alter or not? I dunno MAY TRIGGER?

Postby Amenacer » Sun Oct 23, 2011 7:56 pm

Thank you for your reply.
Things are slowly improving here at home.
As far trying to communicate...Pfff.... I suck, plainly said. We avoid trying to leave notes of any kind. Although as I'mtyping this I am reminded that some of my alters started a writting dialogue about all this with my boyfriend. I also talked to a friend about this. Well, more sort of mentioned it. Figured it would be discussed further over the course of days.
It's just, truelly getting to know the alters by characters/role is a level of acceptance I'm still not ready for. I freak out by the idea alone! I prefer to find out what they're for. It's very impersonal, I know it/'s not very kind, but I feel myself fading when I do that
I lose more time and my behavior becomes more radical. Promiscuous (?), angry, uncaring towards my family, dangerous towards myself... It seems like it's never a good moment in time to let that happen and let it ballance out again. So we re-group and soldier on.
I'd like to get to know them more personally though and I know others inside already do know others. I just don't want to co-operate and be lost forever.
It seemshowever that the new/ unknown alter feels a great need to be here in the front, but there's still a lot of distrust going on between some of us so we're trying to postpone the moment or force it to be co-conscious, but no dice...
Sorry for the rambling, I hope it makes sense.
Soemtimes some of us hide. Mostly on our own accord. Because we're fed up, or hurting too much.
last time it was unwilling it was actually a dumb move on our acount...
Daguir, Illiyana ( end thirties), Selas (7 or 14), Mara, Ferris (19), Falcon (19), Simon (lover of panda's maybe 5 yrs), Malegra(3 or 4), Malis, Amenacer, Liz (25) , Liza and some not yet willing to have their names mentioned. Not willing to identify by color-coding yet either.
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