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Postby TooCloseToTheEdge » Tue May 10, 2011 11:16 am

Do you think a person who has DID has a higher IQ? And when I am saying this, I mean knowing more languages, b/c some alters may know a language that the main doesn't. Or knowing how to do certain things, like sewing, or riding a horse, or ballet, etc. So, can that one have a bigger IQ?

Glauben Sie, dass eine Person, die DID hat einen höheren IQ hat? Und wenn ich das sage, meine ich zu wissen, mehr Sprachen, wie man bestimmte Dinge zu tun, wie Nähen oder Reiten, oder Ballett, etc. So kann, dass man einen höhern IQ haben?
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Re: IQ

Postby weeble » Tue May 10, 2011 11:48 am

hmmmm i dont know for sure but i guess its possible..
they say dissociative people (especially those with full blown DID) have a much higher level of creativity and imagination than the average joe blo...

i guess anything is possible really. i know some of my guys and girls can pick up new things after just 1 go and are awesome at maths and music an all that stuff, but i as the host/core struggle with maths (to the point of near dyslexia), music and languages. But i'm awesome at understanding biology and chemical biology... so yeah, i guess its all possible! :wink:
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Re: IQ

Postby watching&waiting » Wed May 11, 2011 1:01 am

I do believe on average people with DID are slightly more intelegent than "normal" people, but I dont think the iq explains the varied abilities through the personalities.

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Re: IQ

Postby NicS » Wed May 11, 2011 2:41 am

I have an IQ of 134, something my alters generally call #######4 on because, well, I'm a moron in reality and those tests are stupid. But my alters have various skills that I have no idea what they're talking about. Zack loves typography, and is obsessed with the font type Helvetica, C.Nic is obsessed with politics, specifically stuff right-wingers do that piss him off (And if you've ever followed politics like CDOs or The Securitization Food Chain, Terry Schaivo, The War in Iraq and Afghanistan, etc., you know how confusing it is, and yet, he gets it. He knows it well), this new alter I'm dealing with, David, knows fashion very well (it seems he's gay, go him), and TK knows katanas and the human anatomy by heart. I have a copy of Grays Anatomy under my computer screen that he's got memorized.

In terms of IQ, no, I think we have a higher IQ, but we know more than most, becuase each alter studies different things they like.
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Re: IQ

Postby raoul_duke » Wed May 11, 2011 3:52 pm

I don't want to be a jerk here Nic, but I can't help but point out that the war in Afghanistan started when you were 7.

The cause? Some dudes crashed planes into buildings here in the US. They belonged to a terrorist organization that received state support and protection from Afghanistan.
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Re: IQ

Postby NicS » Wed May 11, 2011 4:00 pm

Heh? I'm not quite sure what you mean, but... heh? I'm saying they STUDY this stuff. In reality, we all know everything necessary about WWII, and we weren't alive then. Still... heh?!

I'm still not sure where your coming from.
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Re: IQ

Postby raoul_duke » Wed May 11, 2011 4:47 pm

I'm just wondering why it's included in a list of supposed right-wing offenses. Radicals crashed planes into buildings, killing thousands of Americans along with citizens of dozens of other nations. As a result, we invaded the country that sponsored it. I just don't see how this has anything to do with either political party.
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Re: IQ

Postby RebelChild » Wed May 11, 2011 4:48 pm

I'm not sure if ALL DID people have higher IQs then "normal' people.... I have read MANY-a-forum that are riddled with posts by obvious Morons that can not spell or have any sort of sentence structure. And I'm not talking about the little ones posting either. Adults... *sigh* but the few that I have met in person besides myself have been quite intelligent. I have an IQ of 136... I would be interested in finding out what IQ my alters have and see if it differs any.
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Re: IQ

Postby NicS » Wed May 11, 2011 7:30 pm

raoul_duke wrote:I'm just wondering why it's included in a list of supposed right-wing offenses. Radicals crashed planes into buildings, killing thousands of Americans along with citizens of dozens of other nations. As a result, we invaded the country that sponsored it. I just don't see how this has anything to do with either political party.


Well, to avoid a political firestorm here, I'm sorry if I confused you. He (C.Nic) considers these subjects far-right based subjects. I kinda agree with the war in Iraq and Afghanistan, but, to be honest, I really don't understand it as well as he does. He read as much of the WikiLeaks files as he could, memorized the timeline of "Collateral Murder", and basically preaches the stupidity of the Republican party on a daily basis. I'm a center-leftist, by the way. Were the only democrats... 2/5. Everyone else is Republican. And, if it helps, they mostly agree with you, they're not sure why he's pissed at that.
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Re: IQ

Postby raoul_duke » Thu May 12, 2011 5:07 am

Haha, fair enough. I don't know if I could handle having republicans and democrats both in me, that must be hard. That said, I don't know a lot about the political leanings of the others. There's definitely at least one that's a little more touchy-feely than I, politically. By the way, don't take my post as some sort of defense of the republican party, I was just trying to point out that, in my opinion at least, it's a fairly non-political issue in neither side is really deserving of all the blame. Hell, if anything, judging by the near-unanimity with which Congress authorized both police actions, invading another country is possibly the only thing that can unite the parties in the spirit of bipartisanship. Then they can squabble about who was right after the fact.

Anyways, sorry about the political side-track, I know it's not the place. To contribute something to the topic at hand, I read an article recently from some psychology magazine, in which the doctors tested the hypothesis of whether DID patients would demonstrate greater complexity of thought than people without DID. I found this article through a password protected search feature through school, so unfortunately I can't share a link, but it's called "Cognitive Complexity and Dissociative Identity Disorder" so maybe you can find it some other way. Here's the abstract:

"Thirteen patients with dissociative identity disorder (DID), 13 with other mental
disorders, and 10 nondiagnosed comparison participants were given individual
grids. Results showed that displaying alternate personalities did not portend a
more multidimensional level of thinking. Instead, the nonclinical comparison
group had the greater degree of complexity in comparison to both clinical groups.
A notable clinical observation was that DID patients, as compared to non-DID
participants, had a greater understanding and speed in completing the grid.
Findings are discussed in terms of the advantages of personal construct theory
for conceptualizing the construct of dissociation."
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