Can someone provide a link?

Can someone give me a link to correct terminology. I got a pm that some of the things I experience aren't what I thought they were. Like I thought I was switching and they said it's passive influence. I'm confused about the meaning of things.

Rive wrote:Can someone give me a link to correct terminology. I got a pm that some of the things I experience aren't what I thought they were. Like I thought I was switching and they said it's passive influence. I'm confused about the meaning of things.

I aint got no links
know what it is.
learned about it in English class
its when things outside you cause you to think about things
tv commercials late at night that have food in them can make you think about eating before you know it your thinking what can you have to eat. before you saw the commercial you aint hungry and not thinking about it but after commercial you think about it.

you posted like this lots like when you said first your T said you got abused then later thought you been abused by your mom.

you posted you saw a movie about girls being hurt by their mommy then your voices about your mom started.

your t says something then you think it
you read something then you think it.
you see it on you tube then you think it.

your T can tells you if you have this.

Passive influence in DID/OSDD is not what you described, Andi, and I think it's irresponsible of you to post as if you do know what the definition is. I'm not sure what you learned about in English class--whether it was suggestive influence or what, but it certainly wasn't passive influence as it pertains to DID, which is what Rive was asking about.

Here is a good definition: Passive influence can be described as intrusions from alters that are not currently prominent in the mind or using the body. This may manifest as ego-alien thoughts, feelings, emotions, opinions, preferences, urges, or actions.

Switching is a more complete moving to the front of a part--where they are the one "driving" the body. You might feel like you're "in the back" and don't have control over what's happening, or you may have amnesia for the switch and then come back to find that some time has passed.

That definition is from this website:
http://did-research.org/did/identity_al ... ching.html
and that page has a good description of the difference.

But these things occur on a spectrum--there isn't a clear line separating the two, and there's no particular reason that it matters whether one or the other is happening. They are both due to alters. It doesn't really matter that you called it switching instead of passive influence--the experience that you had didn't change depending on what you called it!

Thanks, Gang

http://did-research.org/did/identity_alteration/switching.html

New to all this myself. I found this link helpful: http://traumadissociation.com/alters

I think the list about different types of parts is.. I don't know.. I'm too perfectionist to look at this kind of lists. Not that there's anything wrong in it, just that there are different categories mixed together, like they were things same kind. What I mean is for example littles, teens, opposite sex alters etc. They are names based on one of their trait like age or gender. And when you make a list like that, same part can of course be many of those things. They can be teenager opposite gender animal part. It is useful to tell parts can be very different from their outside body and from each other, but it gets confusing, when in the same list are parts based on their trait like above, and also categorized by their job in the system.

In many, if not most systems, parts have a job so to speak. They weren't "created" just that there would be more, but based on what's needed. They may be the main front (usually called the host, but I don't use that word because some people find that offensive towards other parts), protectors, care takers, trauma holders etc. And yes, same part can have more than one job too (especially in small systems), or they can have very specific jobs, especially in very large systems.

It just looks funny to me, when someone says there are different kind of people in the world, some are babies, some toddlers, some kids, some tweens, some teens, some adults, some elderly and some plumbers. That all is true, but I'm too perfectionist to put them in same category.

Sorry for the OT, this is how the lists usually are, so your source is not bad one at all. It's just my personal problem to dislike mixing categories.

Totally fair, Floralie. TBH though, I found your post really confusing and hard to read as this is very new to me. Even the list I linked to make our head spin, so we only looked at a TINY amount at this stage. There's so much language and ways to speak out this, so I get Rive being confused with terms (so right there with you, Rive).

Also, sorry, The GangsAllHere, we didn't see you already posted the link we did (first one). Been a long day.

LKinney wrote:Totally fair, Floralie. TBH though, I found your post really confusing and hard to read as this is very new to me. Even the list I linked to make our head spin, so we only looked at a TINY amount at this stage. There's so much language and ways to speak out this, so I get Rive being confused with terms (so right there with you, Rive).

That's true, there are lot of terms to learn, and we do teach them if asked as well as we understand them. And nobody minds if you don't know right terms, just explain what you experience and ask what someone else means by what they say. Terms mostly aren't scientific, or based on anything but what people happen to use, many times they're describing words, closest word you can find to something. Because we experience things that don't have names for them, we need to come up with our own. Some get commonly used, so it's easier to understand what other people are talking about, but at first it is confusing. It is sometimes more confusing, because people don't always use same words or use them differently than others, because they don't know better, but mostly it doesn't matter. We still understand closely enough.

I wasn't judging you any way, sorry if you felt like it, I didn't mean to. I was more making fun of myself. I've never even seem a list made of parts the way I'd wanna put them, because I'd find it easier to understand that way. That was my point, like the reason why I think it's confusing that way, to me it is more confusing that way. Like, if you try to think what your parts are, I think it's easier to understand when it's told they have these physical traits in their identity and they also have jobs, than trying to figure out if someone is a protector/defender or animal alter, when in fact they can be both.

You don't have to know what they are tho, put them into any kind of boxes and categories for us. We do that just because it's easier to understand how our systems work, if we find purposes for things, understand patterns.

Understanding your system is a hard puzzle, and it also keeps changing, because people do. Everything is meant to be there to make it easier to talk about it and understand yourselves. If you don't understand anything from some conversation in here, you are free to totally just skip it and ask questions as long as you need to.

There's a list of some words commonly used in this forum too. It's in here https://www.psychforums.com/dissociative-identity/topic122093.html Just scroll down until you find the headline "On meanings & common acronyms". And you don't have to go in there to look at proper words for you to use, but you can use it to understand what the rest of us are speaking about. Or just ask, list doesn't cover everything, there's also talks about different therapies and they are many times shortened, for example CBT, same as diagnoses, like BPD, just because the names are long to write down ever time. It doesn't matter if you don't know what they are.

What you DO need to use is trigger warnings, if you're talking about something that can easily upset someone, make them triggered (overwhelmed by something that reminds about thing(s) too difficult to think), or cause flashbacks (reliving trauma memory, because of getting triggered). How to use trigger warnings is the top thing on the same page where you find the DID-dictionary.

I don't want to runaway with Rive's thread here. I'll PM reply, but I wasn't at all offended.

here is a link to how that phrase began. it was never about DID but people started using it about lots of things, anything where someone is making changes to others beliefs by just being their self.

forums can even be this cause people post then readers start thinking and making changes. sometimes good changes sometimes bad changes.

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by the way the one that keeps calling me irresposible just because I post things they know not about needs to stop. I dont go around these boards calling other people names that shouldnt be calling me names neither just cause I have posted something they dont know about.